you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
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you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
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what were they supposed to do, OOCly check if their IC perceptions were correct?
and also something about the captain not being part of sec, i guess.
what were they supposed to do, OOCly check if their IC perceptions were correct?
and also something about the captain not being part of sec, i guess.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
What's that? I sense something... it must be another security-related note! (This time the captain was noted for doing the job of security.) METAGANG, ASSEMBLE!!!
According to RPR4, "Players are not expected to ignore antagonists during the normal course of play and may engage with antagonists who are active within their sphere." Is the Captain's sphere not the whole station, including security and engineering?
According to RPR4, "Players are not expected to ignore antagonists during the normal course of play and may engage with antagonists who are active within their sphere." Is the Captain's sphere not the whole station, including security and engineering?
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Istoprocent1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:36 pm Baseless claims. I have been to the vault minimum of 38 times, how many suicides?
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
xzero didn't mention it in the appeal, but some context was a different admin completely disagreeing with this note in the mannycord
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
They didPapaMichael wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:14 am xzero didn't mention it in the appeal, but some context was a different admin completely disagreeing with this note in the mannycord
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Istoprocent1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:36 pm Baseless claims. I have been to the vault minimum of 38 times, how many suicides?
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Istoprocent1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:36 pm Baseless claims. I have been to the vault minimum of 38 times, how many suicides?
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
captain generally shouldnt be concerncing themself with active sec work unless it is actively threatening them
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
i agree, which is why i think if heads are under attack it's perfectly reasonable and IC for a captain to start to get involvedEmpressMaia wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:37 am captain generally shouldnt be concerncing themself with active sec work unless it is actively threatening them
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Okay bmon haters hear me out, I'm about to make a conjecture
If there was a terrorist in the White House going around and attacking congress members, would you expect President Joe Biden himself to hunt him down?
If there was a terrorist in the White House going around and attacking congress members, would you expect President Joe Biden himself to hunt him down?
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In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Then go play on the LRP White House server because he wouldn't on the MRP White House server
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
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pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
There is difference though, the captain literally gets a sword, a gun and wears crazy armor everywhere they go (for the most part)
Not to mention that while it's possible that this captain was an 80 year old with dementia, I highly doubt that they were.
The captain doesn't exist to be protected from the crew, they exist in part to protect the crew.
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Istoprocent1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:36 pm Baseless claims. I have been to the vault minimum of 38 times, how many suicides?
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
he's the commander in chief bro you dont know what he could do
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
i agree, joe biden should have a sword and gun and crazy armorBonChoi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:27 amThere is difference though, the captain literally gets a sword, a gun and wears crazy armor everywhere they go (for the most part)
Not to mention that while it's possible that this captain was an 80 year old with dementia, I highly doubt that they were.
The captain doesn't exist to be protected from the crew, they exist in part to protect the crew.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
i agreenianjiilical wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:37 ami agree, joe biden should have a sword and gun and crazy armorBonChoi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:27 amThere is difference though, the captain literally gets a sword, a gun and wears crazy armor everywhere they go (for the most part)
Not to mention that while it's possible that this captain was an 80 year old with dementia, I highly doubt that they were.
The captain doesn't exist to be protected from the crew, they exist in part to protect the crew.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Joe Biden strikes me as more of a caster than a martial, he should have a staff and spellbook not a sword and armor.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
I think a better comparison would be if a Kings castle or a general's camp was attacked rather than the president ngl
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
or like... the captain of a ship. you know. if a captain of the ship had a crewmember causing trouble for any of the command staff you bet their ass they'd be involved
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
captains weapons and armor are meant for their own personal defense, saying they get all this crazy shit is true yeah but its not meant for them to go out and kill people with its so they don't get killed themselves
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
i agree. the captain in this situation shot two lethals before realizing that they were firing lethals, and then switched to disabler shots from there on out:Donglesplonge wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:56 am captains weapons and armor are meant for their own personal defense, saying they get all this crazy shit is true yeah but its not meant for them to go out and kill people with its so they don't get killed themselves
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09:22:27 ATTACK Xzero314/(Clara White) (mob_3187) fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Supermatter Engine Room (119, 63, 4) Supermatter Engine Room
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09:22:29 ATTACK Xzero314/(Clara White) (mob_3187) shot Sheepthulhu/(Rubs-With-Romerol) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 75) (119, 63, 4) Supermatter Engine Room
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
RPR 4 should allow Capsec IMO. It makes sense for the Captain to fill in and assist with literally anything on station unless it is already and ENTIRELY covered without any necessity for assistance; I.e. cap should not step in to a virus fix when CMO and Chemists are working the dispensers, but expediting allowing Sec into a crime area and helping them with their advanced equipment should be fair game entirely.
Tl;dr FREE MY GIRL
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
I hear his ultimate ability 'conjure ballots' is quite powerful
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
I really don't know what the captain was doing that was wrong, from all that it seems captain worked with security to try to catch a heretic on a quiet shift.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Holy shit no we are not doing this god fucking damnitJackraxxus wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:47 am I hear his ultimate ability 'conjure ballots' is quite powerful
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Noting a cap for helping sec is wild. Dealing with threats should fall under the captain's purview.
Someone go ban King John of Luxembourg for riding into the battle with his men and then DCing. smh
Someone go ban King John of Luxembourg for riding into the battle with his men and then DCing. smh
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
The situation is weird, the ticket the guys "here's an ic reason" and the admin is like "well because of an ooc reason it doesn't count"
"Ai said heretic was targeting me"
Nope because the ai has no way to oocly know so it doesn't count
"Ce was slurring words that someone was a heretic"
Well that was the wrong slur and not a heretic slur but a drunk slur sorry doesn't count
Feels like the admin wants to apply this note and is picking and choosing what ic reasons are valid/invalid at random.
Ultimately when you are playing the game you're not really thinking about what could be the cause oocly and you take a lot of things at face value, which is fine! You shouldn't need to put everything said to you under ooc scrutiny.
It certainly feels like the captain had enough ic information to vo out and investigate but because of ooc factors that ic reasoning is being thrown away? Feels not good
"Ai said heretic was targeting me"
Nope because the ai has no way to oocly know so it doesn't count
"Ce was slurring words that someone was a heretic"
Well that was the wrong slur and not a heretic slur but a drunk slur sorry doesn't count
Feels like the admin wants to apply this note and is picking and choosing what ic reasons are valid/invalid at random.
Ultimately when you are playing the game you're not really thinking about what could be the cause oocly and you take a lot of things at face value, which is fine! You shouldn't need to put everything said to you under ooc scrutiny.
It certainly feels like the captain had enough ic information to vo out and investigate but because of ooc factors that ic reasoning is being thrown away? Feels not good
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
I was the one to tell Clara to either appeal or leave some admin feedback if the situation didn't result in a note. From what little was told to me, it was not something I would even consider worth investigating; captain is effectively above security in its entirety in terms of hierarchy, and generally speaking can insert themselves into any matter as a result. So long as they act appropriately in regards to security policy, they are able to act as security. Their role is largely analogous to the HoS in this regard. Often, the captain can and will be making decisions in the same capacity as them, and VERY frequently will they be pulled into joining conflicts. Their position requires this flexibility to exist in order for the role to function.
Captain acting in security is held to security standards. Always has been. It's just, in an optimization perspective, a poor decision to enter conflicts as the captain due to their nature as a massive loot pinata if they get taken out. If Rubs was after Clara (and it might have been a good extrapolation too, there are only so many heads of staff and heretics will come to get them eventually, even if the AI was wrong, which is...entirely OOC information, nobody should have been told that, only the heretic knows their exact targets), and Clara lost that fight, they'd have handed over two of Rub's targets to them to get even more power.
Reading more into the context and the ticket exchange, I was right to tell them to do so because most of this doesn't seem like just a poorly understood position about where the captain occupies in security matters, but also seems to be holding a player accountable over acting on IC information that turned out to be mildly inaccurate but at least had internal consistency enough to be reasonable. The points of contention are entirely reasonable justifications to act on, and some of this is information nobody in-game could have known, but is used to dismiss Clara's counterarguments anyway.
If the captain not being counted as sec has been enforced like this on Manuel in the past, I would hope it stops now. I would also hope that we don't get into long-winded arguments for an hour in tickets to the point that you may as well have pulled them into the admin prison if you were occupying so much of their time
Captain acting in security is held to security standards. Always has been. It's just, in an optimization perspective, a poor decision to enter conflicts as the captain due to their nature as a massive loot pinata if they get taken out. If Rubs was after Clara (and it might have been a good extrapolation too, there are only so many heads of staff and heretics will come to get them eventually, even if the AI was wrong, which is...entirely OOC information, nobody should have been told that, only the heretic knows their exact targets), and Clara lost that fight, they'd have handed over two of Rub's targets to them to get even more power.
Reading more into the context and the ticket exchange, I was right to tell them to do so because most of this doesn't seem like just a poorly understood position about where the captain occupies in security matters, but also seems to be holding a player accountable over acting on IC information that turned out to be mildly inaccurate but at least had internal consistency enough to be reasonable. The points of contention are entirely reasonable justifications to act on, and some of this is information nobody in-game could have known, but is used to dismiss Clara's counterarguments anyway.
If the captain not being counted as sec has been enforced like this on Manuel in the past, I would hope it stops now. I would also hope that we don't get into long-winded arguments for an hour in tickets to the point that you may as well have pulled them into the admin prison if you were occupying so much of their time
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
I wouldn't expect it cuz he is a coward but i think it would be funny so he should do it
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Also notably, the CE was drunk and blacking out, but was also actively involved in hunting rubs in cargo, and the blackout could have very well screwed him over if Rubs decided to take advantage of that to kidnap him and steal his ID
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Yeah I am with the player here.
Captain's should be able to act as sec, with the reasons the player gave being the reasons I have.
If I am captain I WILL get sec officers asking me to help with something, either to deal with a criminal or tell them what punishment they will get. Even if there is a HoS. I personally want the sec officers to do it on their own, so I say "you can do what you want" they THEN tell me "hey, you have to authorise it."
No I was giving you permission to authorise it yourself IC. I gave you permission to think for yourself...
Sometimes the sec officer would give you a criminal then walk off.
That rant was to say that the captain is basically seen as HoS number 2, and should have rulings based on that. Any captain will get put into sec jobs whether they like it or not eventually. Its part of the job.
I personally do what I can to not do sec work but I eventually end up doing it as captain, especially in low pop when there is no HoS. Protecting my station is the caps job in ss13 afterall.
Captain's should be able to act as sec, with the reasons the player gave being the reasons I have.
If I am captain I WILL get sec officers asking me to help with something, either to deal with a criminal or tell them what punishment they will get. Even if there is a HoS. I personally want the sec officers to do it on their own, so I say "you can do what you want" they THEN tell me "hey, you have to authorise it."
No I was giving you permission to authorise it yourself IC. I gave you permission to think for yourself...
Sometimes the sec officer would give you a criminal then walk off.
That rant was to say that the captain is basically seen as HoS number 2, and should have rulings based on that. Any captain will get put into sec jobs whether they like it or not eventually. Its part of the job.
I personally do what I can to not do sec work but I eventually end up doing it as captain, especially in low pop when there is no HoS. Protecting my station is the caps job in ss13 afterall.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
I'm sure if Joe Biden asked he would get a gun and armor for self defense. Doesn't mean he can apply in the local police force to hunt for criminals because he's bored on a quiet White House shift
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In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Yeah but the captain is not the president of Nanotrasen, for one.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Unlike real life commanders, the ss13 captain doesnt have anything to do other than 1) Protect his ID and the nuclear auth disk 2) Call the shuttle when it's time to go home 3) stick his nose into other departments lanes because he's bored.
We don't give him the best armour on station and a brace of deadly weapons exclusively for self defense - If he wants to go out and play ball with the serial killer targeting his direct subordinates in person instead of annoying the HOS with micromanagement, he can.
We don't give him the best armour on station and a brace of deadly weapons exclusively for self defense - If he wants to go out and play ball with the serial killer targeting his direct subordinates in person instead of annoying the HOS with micromanagement, he can.
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Oh... so THIS is why everyone hates Bmon. So much for "they hate me because I kill as an antag".
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
why would i get noted for looting the antique laser every round on manny thenNot-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:45 pm We don't give him the best armour on station and a brace of deadly weapons exclusively for self defense - If he wants to go out and play ball with the serial killer targeting his direct subordinates in person instead of annoying the HOS with micromanagement, he can.
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
also please remember we are talking MRP. unlike on LRP not every single person on the station is rambo there
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
The hut has perished at my hands.
The pink arrow is always right.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Oh God this is gross. I feel like I need to take a shower after reading this. Free my girlkieth4 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:39 am The situation is weird, the ticket the guys "here's an ic reason" and the admin is like "well because of an ooc reason it doesn't count"
"Ai said heretic was targeting me"
Nope because the ai has no way to oocly know so it doesn't count
"Ce was slurring words that someone was a heretic"
Well that was the wrong slur and not a heretic slur but a drunk slur sorry doesn't count
Feels like the admin wants to apply this note and is picking and choosing what ic reasons are valid/invalid at random.
Ultimately when you are playing the game you're not really thinking about what could be the cause oocly and you take a lot of things at face value, which is fine! You shouldn't need to put everything said to you under ooc scrutiny.
It certainly feels like the captain had enough ic information to vo out and investigate but because of ooc factors that ic reasoning is being thrown away? Feels not good
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
no capsec is cring and is as despicable as hopsec, you are ABOVE the crew. you have your pawns do work for you. you dont gotta get your hands dirtyDrAmazing343 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:01 am RPR 4 should allow Capsec IMO. It makes sense for the Captain to fill in and assist with literally anything on station unless it is already and ENTIRELY covered without any necessity for assistance; I.e. cap should not step in to a virus fix when CMO and Chemists are working the dispensers, but expediting allowing Sec into a crime area and helping them with their advanced equipment should be fair game entirely.
Tl;dr FREE MY GIRL
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
Hopsec is cringe because ur a fucking pencil pusher until the cap actually bites the dust and you tear off your jacket in two pieces to reveal rows of chiseled muscle and become the final boss.
Capsec is entirely valid because half the fucking appeal is being the guy who goes TALLY HO LADS AFFIX BAYONETS and goes and stabs a triangular hole in someone
Capsec is entirely valid because half the fucking appeal is being the guy who goes TALLY HO LADS AFFIX BAYONETS and goes and stabs a triangular hole in someone
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
This is the world's most IC issue IC issue.
RPR4 ain't a bludgeon to force players to play in the way admins think they should, especially not Cap. Cap's a role that genuinely has a pass to get involved in any part of the station affairs. They're the boss of every department's boss.
RPR4 is to ensure players actually interact instead of deciding they can do the player's job better and breaking in to do it. Using it in this way decreases those meaningful interactions and demotes the Captain to delegator-in-chief. That ain't it for me.
RPR4 ain't a bludgeon to force players to play in the way admins think they should, especially not Cap. Cap's a role that genuinely has a pass to get involved in any part of the station affairs. They're the boss of every department's boss.
RPR4 is to ensure players actually interact instead of deciding they can do the player's job better and breaking in to do it. Using it in this way decreases those meaningful interactions and demotes the Captain to delegator-in-chief. That ain't it for me.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
i understand the intent to curb valid hunting on MRP in particular, but there were more than sufficient reasons for the Captain to invoke their Actions Hero card in this situation as I understand it as well.
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
No, but I would expect Teddy Roosevelt to do such a thing.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
If the logs didn't literally state Rubs's CKEY, i'd expect bmon to be self-adminning their own ticket or something. This is ridiculous.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
I'm coming around on thinking this was an entirely fair and reasonable shoot on xzero's part.
It might suck to be up against a stacked deck with the opposition, but if how it went down felt bad or less dramatic than it could have been, it's the fault of nobody involved, it's just how things shook out - all the choices seem reasonable.
It might suck to be up against a stacked deck with the opposition, but if how it went down felt bad or less dramatic than it could have been, it's the fault of nobody involved, it's just how things shook out - all the choices seem reasonable.
feedback appreciated here <3
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
We should start taking bets as to how bmon is going to respond to this appeal thread.
Anyone with adminbus access is not allowed to bet, I also ask that you don't spoil it kthx.
For me it comes down to two options. Bmon sees the err in their ways and overturns the note themselves or they double down and it has to be overturned by headmins (speaking of which if that's after the election results is it decided on by like 6 people? LOL)
My money's on the first option.
Anyone with adminbus access is not allowed to bet, I also ask that you don't spoil it kthx.
For me it comes down to two options. Bmon sees the err in their ways and overturns the note themselves or they double down and it has to be overturned by headmins (speaking of which if that's after the election results is it decided on by like 6 people? LOL)
My money's on the first option.
Another bad take provided by yours truly.
Istoprocent1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:36 pm Baseless claims. I have been to the vault minimum of 38 times, how many suicides?
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
BonChoi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:26 pm We should start taking bets as to how bmon is going to respond to this appeal thread.
Anyone with adminbus access is not allowed to bet, I also ask that you don't spoil it kthx.
For me it comes down to two options. Bmon sees the err in their ways and overturns the note themselves or they double down and it has to be overturned by headmins (speaking of which if that's after the election results is it decided on by like 6 people? LOL)
My money's on the first option.
respect (let him do his thing)
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
What the fuck is that? What is that???? Oh God I feel awful looking at this... is this how striders feels when someone posts an image of the wet owl??? Ughkinnebian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:37 pmGod weeps.BonChoi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:26 pm We should start taking bets as to how bmon is going to respond to this appeal thread.
Anyone with adminbus access is not allowed to bet, I also ask that you don't spoil it kthx.
For me it comes down to two options. Bmon sees the err in their ways and overturns the note themselves or they double down and it has to be overturned by headmins (speaking of which if that's after the election results is it decided on by like 6 people? LOL)
My money's on the first option.
Another bad take provided by yours truly.
Istoprocent1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:36 pm Baseless claims. I have been to the vault minimum of 38 times, how many suicides?
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Re: you must ICly do nothing peanut thread
its a doggyBonChoi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:56 pmWhat the fuck is that? What is that???? Oh God I feel awful looking at this... is this how striders feels when someone posts an image of the wet owl??? Ughkinnebian wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:37 pmGod weeps.BonChoi wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:26 pm We should start taking bets as to how bmon is going to respond to this appeal thread.
Anyone with adminbus access is not allowed to bet, I also ask that you don't spoil it kthx.
For me it comes down to two options. Bmon sees the err in their ways and overturns the note themselves or they double down and it has to be overturned by headmins (speaking of which if that's after the election results is it decided on by like 6 people? LOL)
My money's on the first option.
respect (let him do his thing)
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