Jeb wrote:Psyentific wrote:oranges wrote:Without a Steno this forum will be dead within a few months.
We're not allowed to post in FNRs if we are not either the OP, an Admin, or the person being FNR'd. This is regardless of post content and relevancy.
We're not allowed to commentate on FNRs on-site, because FNR itself is heavily moderated and Steno is gone.
We can watch the trainwreck happen, but we're powerless to stop it.
Not being able to commentate on FNR's is not going to kill the official site of tgstation servers.
It's been said multiple times, if you have an issue with a player, open a thread. Nobody can get past the whole BUT WHERE DO I SHITPOST mentality that they gained on the old forums.
What if I don't want to shitpost? That's
really my problem here. I read FNRs - I read
all the FNRs. Most of the time, on the old forum, I'd leave a trivial comment. "Stay banned, fagit" - I can't do that on the new forums, and I'm
okay with that. I'd like to be able to do it, sure. It's always fun to publicly laugh at the shitters appealing a ban for non-antag murderbone on the same day.
But most of the time, the OP of an FNR puts in a token effort. I'd point to Mimey's ban request, but in particular and more relevantly
Here, Ban Req for Sam8411. The former, Mimey, was blanket moderated. I admit, my first post in the thread was purely anecdotal, however I gave a time frame within 48 hours and provided four incidents. No, I didn't have timestamped logs, but quite frankly I shouldn't need them. The second, in Sam8411, was my own account of the events in the OP - Under my interpretation of policy, the
only reason it wasn't trashcanned was because it was
the same event.
Quite plainly, that
should not be.
By basing FNRs off incidents instead of players, you're going to lose
so much to people like me, who don't want to go to the trouble of putting up a full FNR and maintaining a thread for
each seperate incident of someone being bad. I
prefer to bandwagon, because it allows someone else to make the thread, but also allows me to pitch in and support their arguement - Again, see Sam8411, where I did all the heavy lifting.
Yes, I agree that the worst part of the old FNRs was that it wasn't moderated - That entire ban appeals/requests could be derailed by pure shitposting. Thus, Steno. Steno fills a niche, and that niche is in demand by a vocal segment of the playerbase. Denying it because it's pure shitposting is bad - The
entire point of steno is shitposting, yelling "STAY B& FAGET". I'm very much in favor of a heavily moderated, clean and professional FNR, but there's
a lot of stuff I want to say that I
can't say. Half of that is supporting someone's case in FNR -
here and
here. The other half is peanut gallerying - Steno. Somewhere you
actively funnel shitposts into, so you don't have to deal with them and so I have a place to do it. Make Steno an unlocked subforum of FNR Trash.
I haven't logged into SS13 in at least a year.