Convert the AI detector into an Advanced Hacking Tool

[Anonmare]

The AI detector tool is a rarely used item since it has a one very specific use - letting the user know when the AI eye is over them. Usually if the AI can see you, it's too late to do much about it unless you're trying to decide if it's safer to go now or to wait until later. So, what I suggest is bundling it with some extra functionality to encourage people to buy the tool; by having it give an AI-style interface when used on a door/APC/Vending machine to give very fine control over hackable items.
You won't be told what the physical wires do but you won't need to know since the tool does it all for you, effectively making it superior to other hack tools. The downside; being over-reliant on the tool will leave you up shit creek without a paddle if you lose it and need to hack something and you never bothered to learn the wires.

If people are worried about it becoming too OP, it could be increased in price by a 1 or 2 TC.
The emag will not be made obsolete, if some people have concerns about it being more effective than the cryptographic sequencer, because:-
A.) The emag will always be faster.
And B.) Has functionality beyond hacking doors.

[Wyzack]

> stealing my brilliant idea

Nice try nerd

[Anonmare]

>He doesn't copyright his ideas
Nice try goyim

[Scott]

Make it require the panel to be open too.

[TheNightingale]

Make it require a screwdriver as well (use the advanced hacking tool on a door with the maintenance panel open). It's got much more utility with regards to hacking than an emag, but it can't do fun stuff like hack Cargo's console or the holodeck, and it's slower.

[Anonmare]

Yeah you still need a screwdriver to get into the nitty-gritty of a machine's wires and a crowbar to force open an airlock. It does everything the AI detector and a regular multitool does, only better.


Ideally, this means traitors can use tactics typical of an AI (stealthboltshocking a room to prevent a target from running away when they come in through the only entrance) and can get more creative with using the oft-overlooked features of hacking, like disabled door-safeties and door-timer to crush people.
Honestly I'd suggest putting the ability to set-up a temporary AI firewall (AKA: Snipping the AI connection wire) if it could be done.

[CPTANT]

I liked the idea of having it sabotage camera's so it doesn't show mobs.

[Smeller]

Wish it would be remote but obvious(to prevent fuckery) AI-like door control. You come in after ur target, stealthboltshock the door, pull out ur extinguisher and then watch em get shocked

[Shaps-cloud]

Technically that's already possible with signallers but I don't think anyone's ever really gone through the trouble

[Saegrimr]

Technically that's already possible with signallers but I don't think anyone's ever really gone through the trouble

I spent my entire antag round on /vg/ a month or so ago just putting signallers on all the main hallway door's shock wire and sitting in my office at the security cameras just watching and toggling them on specific people. I'm pretty sure they started gathering up an army to assault the AI before realizing there wasn't one.

I don't think i've ever laughed quite that hard at SS13.

[CPTANT]

Technically that's already possible with signallers but I don't think anyone's ever really gone through the trouble

I spent my entire antag round on /vg/ a month or so ago just putting signallers on all the main hallway door's shock wire and sitting in my office at the security cameras just watching and toggling them on specific people. I'm pretty sure they started gathering up an army to assault the AI before realizing there wasn't one.

I don't think i've ever laughed quite that hard at SS13.

Station might benefit from some more signaler dispensers, they are a bit underused for all the fun you can do with them.

I once abducted half the crew during newcult by attaching a signaler to the telecomms apc and just pressing it every time I wanted to abduct someone.

[leibniz]

Another way to approach this is to give it an ability to transform into any tool.
So using the tool inhand would give you a list of tools then you could select it and then it would turn into that.
And the welder would be infinite because telecrystals are dope.
We would just need a new set of sprites for these synditools that include the green/red light.

Then we could get rid of the syndicate toolbox finally.

[PKPenguin321]

Another way to approach this is to give it an ability to transform into any tool.
So using the tool inhand would give you a list of tools then you could select it and then it would turn into that.
And the welder would be infinite because telecrystals are dope.
We would just need a new set of sprites for these synditools that include the green/red light.

Then we could get rid of the syndicate toolbox finally.

i tried coding this once and let me tell you friend it is not a good time

[Remie Richards]

Another way to approach this is to give it an ability to transform into any tool.
So using the tool inhand would give you a list of tools then you could select it and then it would turn into that.
And the welder would be infinite because telecrystals are dope.
We would just need a new set of sprites for these synditools that include the green/red light.

Then we could get rid of the syndicate toolbox finally.

i tried coding this once and let me tell you friend it is not a good time

A swiss army knife tool is stupidly easy to make.
Stupidly easy.
here:

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/obj/item/weapon/swisstool
    var/list/tools = list("crowbar" = /obj/item/weapon/crowbar, "screwdriver " = /obj/item/weapon/screwdriver)
    var/obj/item/active_tool = null

/obj/item/weapon/swisstool/New()
    ..()
    for(var/tool in tools)
        tools[tool] = new tools[tool](src)

/obj/item/weapon/swisstool/attack_self(user)
    var/tool = input(user, "Choose the tool","Tools") as null|anything in tools
    if(tool)
        active_tool = tools[tool]
        user << "<span class='notice'>\The [src] is now set to \the [active_tool] setting.</span."

/obj/item/weapon/swisstool/afterattack(atom/target, mob/user, adjacent, click_params)
    if(active_tool)
        var/resolved = target.attackby(active_tool,user)
        if(!finished && target)
            active_tool.afterattack(target,user,adjacent,params)

[PKPenguin321]

Another way to approach this is to give it an ability to transform into any tool.
So using the tool inhand would give you a list of tools then you could select it and then it would turn into that.
And the welder would be infinite because telecrystals are dope.
We would just need a new set of sprites for these synditools that include the green/red light.

Then we could get rid of the syndicate toolbox finally.

i tried coding this once and let me tell you friend it is not a good time

A swiss army knife tool is stupidly easy to make.
Stupidly easy.
here:

snip

whaaaat
you can just make the path a var like that???
holy shit

[Remie Richards]

yeah totally.

[DemonFiren]

>He doesn't copyright his ideas
Nice try goyim

Goy.
Goyim is plural.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Reece]

Demonfiren confirmed for Jew.

Maybe have it be a door style camera bug?

[kevinz000]

Did you seriously just bump this?

[Reece]

Me? No, demon did.

[Wyzack]

Bumped it for a grammer correction nonetheless.

MODS DELETE THIS

[Anonmare]

>Deleting my awesome idea
You're a cruel one, Mr Wyzack

[TheWiznard]

>Deleting my awesome idea
You're a cruel one, Mr Wyzack

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[Screemonster]

It was bumped 'cause someone posted a similar idea in another thread and this one got linked to.