Telescience Improvement

[kevinz000]

Telescience is currently complex-math based and requires calibration and has its power increased by inserting more bluespace crystals to the console.
How can it be improved to be more enjoying to use that's not either get out a calculator and spend half a minute calculating or use Telescience V5?

The telepad should require lots more parts (maybe 2 of each instead of just 2 capacitors) and actually do the teleportation, as right now the code is in the console. Also, why the hell aren't you inserting crystals into the telepad and instead into the console..?!

I'm thinking it should have two different methods of usage. Each method's calibrations are separate.
Method 1: Automatic Calibration Lock
1.After (re)calibration, telepad is ready for use for 5-10 times, based on part ratings. You can do small recalibrations that take less time but INCREASE the amount of times before full recalibration is necessary, so you won't actually need to unless you quickly use and deplete it.
2.Calibration would take a long-ass time, maybe 1 minute or more, based on part ratings. Partial calibrations would take less time.
3.Calibration could also be done manually by math. This is faster, but requires a calculator and maybe scratch paper.
4.After it's calibrated, type in coordinates and send/recieve
5.The telepad checks to see if the location is in range of a BLUESPACE INHIBITOR, which will prevent telescience teleports with this method.
5a. Maybe be able to ignore it for that particular teleport with a bluespace crystal?
6.The telepad takes an amount of time to "calculate" (a few seconds, depending on part rating)
7.Telepad charges up to teleport. Destination/source location shows a flashing bluespace portal thingy opening so there is warning.
8. After charging, it either instantly sends or recieves from or to that location, OR, keeps a portal open, but keeping a portal open will drain power from the telepad's APC at a MASSIVE rate, goon style.
9.Ideally the time from coordinates being typed in to the actual teleport would be 20-60 seconds based on part ratings.
10. Slight inaccuracy with SENDING, pinpoint RECIEVING, based on parts ratings.
11.Area send/recieve, maybe something called a linked telepad that doesn't need any parts but a capacitor, and used for this? Uses power exponentially based on the area selected. Can't bypass telescience/bluespace disruptors at all.
12.Range constraints are lower(longer) than Method 2 to compensate.

Method 2: Manual Legacy Teleport
1.Old method of calibration, you have to manually calibrate offsets, and you only have to do it every 40 teleports. No partial calibrations, though.
2.Old method of teleport. Complex math, telescience calculators, all that good stuff.
3.Ignores telescience inhibitors, just like now
4.Requires a special machine/WE so it's more effort to use then the first method.
5.Same range constraints as now
6.Pinpoint accuracy, but no area sending/recieving.

In any case, trying to send/receive to admin/invalid places should result in... Unfortunate fun.

Other ideas are welcome as both these methods are sorta-easy to do, and I'm suggesting keeping telescience calculators relevant.

[Dagdammit]

Yogstation telesci is very different but works well in its own way.

[iamgoofball]

no

do the math if you want roundstart theft

[kevinz000]

I never said it had to be roundstart. It isn't roundstart now.

[Remie Richards]

Why do people hate cannon physics!

[killerx09]

Just port Yogstation Telescience.

[XDTM]

Speaking of telepads, what would you think of a separate teleportation method consisting of linked telepads? Basically, clicking on one will take everything on top of it to the other telepad and viceversa. Something science can build to speed up some travel routes, or move between z-levels, or avoid a hazard.
These telepads would have nothing to do with normal telesci and would be their own machine, maybe with a cooldown decreasing with upgrades.

[Drynwyn]

no

do the math if you want roundstart theft

Nobody does the goddamn math they use the spreadsheet. Math based telesci is an admirable goal but the nature of our community means it's simply a barrier to effectiveness that is hugely more difficult to work out through experimentation than by out of game resource application.

[kevinz000]

Speaking of telepads, what would you think of a separate teleportation method consisting of linked telepads? Basically, clicking on one will take everything on top of it to the other telepad and viceversa. Something science can build to speed up some travel routes, or move between z-levels, or avoid a hazard.
These telepads would have nothing to do with normal telesci and would be their own machine, maybe with a cooldown decreasing with upgrades.

That sounds great.
Now.. just add electro-sappers

[kevinz000]

no

do the math if you want roundstart theft

Nobody does the goddamn math they use the spreadsheet. Math based telesci is an admirable goal but the nature of our community means it's simply a barrier to effectiveness that is hugely more difficult to work out through experimentation than by out of game resource application.

TELESCIENCE V5!!!

[CPTANT]

no

do the math if you want roundstart theft

The math based use of telescience is horrible. I just made a telescience calculating excel spreadsheet, like everyone else.

Having telescience require out of game work is just bad design.

And after you make/download a spreadsheet it is trivial as fuck.

[Remie Richards]

no

do the math if you want roundstart theft

The math based use of telescience is horrible. I just made a telescience calculating excel spreadsheet, like everyone else.

Having telescience require out of game work is just bad design.

And after you make/download a spreadsheet it is trivial as fuck.

it doesn't require out of game work though? you just decided to do it that way.
Is THINKING really "out of game work" to you?

[Ezel]

Yayy 30 minutes in round tElescience and MATH!!!

[CPTANT]

no

do the math if you want roundstart theft

The math based use of telescience is horrible. I just made a telescience calculating excel spreadsheet, like everyone else.

Having telescience require out of game work is just bad design.

And after you make/download a spreadsheet it is trivial as fuck.

it doesn't require out of game work though? you just decided to do it that way.
Is THINKING really "out of game work" to you?

Ok either you like solving the equations every time you want to teleport something or you make/download a spreadsheet.

I have no idea why you would punish yourself by doing it by hand every time though.

[Shadowlight213]

>using the spreadsheet instead of the telesci calculator program.
I'm pretty sure there was even an ntsl version of it made.

[iamgoofball]

using a spreadsheet is still doing the math, m8

i don't expect you to crunch this shit manually for every shot, same with the calculators

[CPTANT]

using a spreadsheet is still doing the math, m8

i don't expect you to crunch this shit manually for every shot, same with the calculators

Then what's the point, the only thing you literally have to do is input 2 numbers in the spreadsheat (which literally does exactly the same thing as the calculator) and read out 2 numbers.....