Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

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Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Kuraudo » #21102

Hi there.
Like the title of the topics says, i propose for the old 1951 KGB Stechkin pistol to be replaced by the Glock 17 9mm pistol.
The Glock makes sense in the Space Station 13 universe. Let me explain why:
Being created in 1981 to meets the needs of the Austrian army, it's more recent and combat-effective than the Stechkin, which is an outdated pistol, with outdated ammo, mechanics and magazine capacity. (17 9mm bullets VS 8 10mm rounds)
Production of the Stechkin stopped in 1975 and it's use is very limited. (Limited service in poor countries which can't affort to renew their armory: Angola, Zambia, Vietnam, etc)
The Glock has a reputation to be an undestructible pistol. Throw it from a plane, crush it with a tank, it will still work. If i had one pistol to take with me in space, it will be this one. No external safety, no bullshit, draw it, pull the trigger and it fires. It's one badass gun, contemporary and futuristic at the same time.

It's widespread and used by anyone around the world; It set itself as the pistol of the police officer as well as the bad guy. And whoever says bad guy says syndicate. The myth of the pistol undetectable in x-ray, while being just a myth, fits the shady traitor atmosphere. I can very well picture a syndicate double agent, traitor or nuke ops carrying one. It's a pure combat pistol and that's exactly what an antag would need.
Latest generation of the Glock 17, the gen 4, was put in the market in 2010 and is setting new standards.
Ammo is also widespread, as you can see the 9mm being used by law enforcment, shooters and military all around the world.

As for in game mechanics; All it needs are renamings in the appropriate menu, the two sprites (Silenced, unsilenced), changing the mag capacity and the ammo to 9mm, as for the damage done; The difference between 10mm and 9mm is tiny, the coderbus can very well replicate this difference in game by reducing very slightly the damage, or not.

Pictures of the two guns:
Stechkin
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Glock 17
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The Stetchkin looks like it belongs to a museum. The Glock whoever, is built to be intimidating as fuck.
Thanks for reading me. ;)
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by paprika » #21105

no fuck off
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Kuraudo » #21107

paprika wrote:no fuck off
No argumentation detected in this sentence.
Care to elaborate on why my idea is so bad that i have to "fuck off" ?
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Cipher3 » #21108

While Paprika is tactful as always, it doesn't really matter what pistol it is. Plus Artyom cargo can produce Glocks if they jump through hoops with science and crate ordering. Stetchkin sounds cooler, looks cool, and fits.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Lo6a4evskiy » #21174

Kuraudo wrote:
paprika wrote:no fuck off
No argumentation detected in this sentence.
Care to elaborate on why my idea is so bad that i have to "fuck off" ?
The argumentation is about as good as in OP. Seriously, why?
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Kuraudo » #21225

Cipher3 wrote:While Paprika is tactful as always, it doesn't really matter what pistol it is. Plus Artyom cargo can produce Glocks if they jump through hoops with science and crate ordering. Stetchkin sounds cooler, looks cool, and fits.
I'm assuming that TG code give the choice between power (The Revolver) and capacity/stealth (The semi-auto), my idea underline this by proposing a pistol which contain many bullets, is not as strong as the revolver, can be fitted with a silencer and, like i said in the original post, fits SS13 universe very well.
As for Artyom, i don't play in it.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Steelpoint » #21226

Doesn't the Sketchin deal 10 Brute damage per hit?

I'm all for choice don't get me wrong, but a sidearm that deals less damage than a crowbar is something I'll find not as good to use, unless its a SMG.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Kuraudo » #21227

Steelpoint wrote:Doesn't the Sketchin deal 10 Brute damage per hit?

I'm all for choice don't get me wrong, but a sidearm that deals less damage than a crowbar is something I'll find not as good to use, unless its a SMG.
I'm OK for the damage values not being changed. But the fact is the revolver hurts way more. My proposal would restore the balance in the sense that you would get a medium damage weapon with high capacity.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by paprika » #21255

Stech does 30 damage because a nuke op was buttmad one day.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Cipher3 » #21281

paprika wrote:Stech does 30 damage because a nuke op was buttmad one day.
Makes way more sense anyways.
Spoiler:
Nathanael Greene has made a woman of Bryce Pax!

Valerie Sinnet says, "Nathaniel Greene charged the brig with a fucking HONK."

[Common] Assists-the-Crew hisses, "Walker Quinn s-s-s-ss-stole the HoP's-s-s-ss-s door"

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Linus Johnson says, "Hey you know I got this game Skyrim last week"
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Weston Zadovsky says, "did he just"
Weston Zadovsky says, "fucking hell"

The emergency shuttle has been called. It will arrive in 10 minutes.
Nature of emergency:
Coravin, just Coravin.

Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Fucking get out."
Coravin Vattes asks, "Please?"
Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Please get the fuck outta my lab."
Coravin Vattes exclaims, "Okay!"
[Common] Beryl Nyuphoran {RD} asks, "WHO GAVE CORAVIN ALL ACCESS?"

Lindsay Donk stammers, "L-Luc-ck w-was-s-s s-s-such-h a beaut-tifu p-p-p-pr-r-rom-m q-q-q-queen"

Ty Andrews curls up in a ball on the floor and purrs.

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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by paprika » #21297

this OP is so fucking /k/
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Kuraudo » #21318

paprika wrote:Stech does 30 damage because a nuke op was buttmad one day.
It's still medium-tier compared to the powerhouse that the Revolver is.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by paprika » #21362

The l6 is a 50 round revolver and I'm surprised more nook ops don't take it.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by kylefiredemon » #21895

paprika wrote:The l6 is a 50 round revolver and I'm surprised more nook ops don't take it.
Good point, but remember that the L6 can't be put in a backpack or be put in the backpack slot and you also have to carry not only your backpack and the jetpack too.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by paprika » #21896

you can put your jetpack harness and hardsuit into backpacks protip
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Steelpoint » #21921

Only semi-relevant but here's a mock up of how I think a good base loadout for a Operative would go. Leaving plenty of wiggle room for more stuff. I made this a while ago/

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Space is not as huge an issue for Nuke Ops if they plan out correctly.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by paprika » #21963

if you go with steelpoint's loadout you'll suffocate in space so don't do that
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Steelpoint » #21966

Can't you draw Oxygen from your jetpack?

Eh, if not just plop a Oxytank in your pockets and plop the magazine in your backpack.

Simply put, space is not as big an issue for Nuke Ops if they plan it out.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Cipher3 » #21994

Steelpoint wrote:Can't you draw Oxygen from your jetpack?
This is true.
Spoiler:
Nathanael Greene has made a woman of Bryce Pax!

Valerie Sinnet says, "Nathaniel Greene charged the brig with a fucking HONK."

[Common] Assists-the-Crew hisses, "Walker Quinn s-s-s-ss-stole the HoP's-s-s-ss-s door"

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I demand this ban be lifted right now. ~Bibliodewangus

Erin Wake whispers, "You should ready up on Badger and boink with me..."

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DEAD: Ichigo Momomiya says, "Coravin's just an ass."

Linus Johnson says, "Hey you know I got this game Skyrim last week"
Linus Johnson says, "I have a level 19 ranger and its so fun"
Weston Zadovsky says, "did he just"
Weston Zadovsky says, "fucking hell"

The emergency shuttle has been called. It will arrive in 10 minutes.
Nature of emergency:
Coravin, just Coravin.

Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Fucking get out."
Coravin Vattes asks, "Please?"
Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Please get the fuck outta my lab."
Coravin Vattes exclaims, "Okay!"
[Common] Beryl Nyuphoran {RD} asks, "WHO GAVE CORAVIN ALL ACCESS?"

Lindsay Donk stammers, "L-Luc-ck w-was-s-s s-s-such-h a beaut-tifu p-p-p-pr-r-rom-m q-q-q-queen"

Ty Andrews curls up in a ball on the floor and purrs.

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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by paprika » #22000

>wasting precious jetpack fuel for your lungs

stupid, until i add syndie magboots to /tg/ the jetpack is super valuable if you bomb the grav gen.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Raven776 » #22025

To be fair, the amount you take out of the jetpack breathing would be a drop in the bucket compared to the amount you use flying around, especially if you set up the air correctly on it.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Reimoo » #22061

Steelpoint wrote:
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You can put the jetpack into your backpack? WHAT.
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Post by Cipher3 » #22084

Reimoo wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:
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You can put the jetpack into your backpack? WHAT.
Yeah, you didn't know? That's why it's just a harness.
Spoiler:
Nathanael Greene has made a woman of Bryce Pax!

Valerie Sinnet says, "Nathaniel Greene charged the brig with a fucking HONK."

[Common] Assists-the-Crew hisses, "Walker Quinn s-s-s-ss-stole the HoP's-s-s-ss-s door"

OOC: HotelBravoLima: I literally can't be removed from power.


I demand this ban be lifted right now. ~Bibliodewangus

Erin Wake whispers, "You should ready up on Badger and boink with me..."

"I think you guys are just tired of drinking hitler and now you want diet hitler.
I've got all that great hitler flavor but only half the hitler calories." - Anon3

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that PR matters. ~MisterPerson

DEAD: Ichigo Momomiya says, "Coravin's just an ass."

Linus Johnson says, "Hey you know I got this game Skyrim last week"
Linus Johnson says, "I have a level 19 ranger and its so fun"
Weston Zadovsky says, "did he just"
Weston Zadovsky says, "fucking hell"

The emergency shuttle has been called. It will arrive in 10 minutes.
Nature of emergency:
Coravin, just Coravin.

Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Fucking get out."
Coravin Vattes asks, "Please?"
Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Please get the fuck outta my lab."
Coravin Vattes exclaims, "Okay!"
[Common] Beryl Nyuphoran {RD} asks, "WHO GAVE CORAVIN ALL ACCESS?"

Lindsay Donk stammers, "L-Luc-ck w-was-s-s s-s-such-h a beaut-tifu p-p-p-pr-r-rom-m q-q-q-queen"

Ty Andrews curls up in a ball on the floor and purrs.

by oranges » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:15 pm
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Fragnostic » #23610

Excellent idea.

The current sprite for the 'Stechkin' pistol looks like a Glock. The nice, crisp, compact design with interlocking curves along it's ergonomic grip. It shouldn't even have a new sprite, it's should just be renamed! Maybe not Glock 17, but the same style and look of Glock will remain while still being able to fire 10mm. There are Glocks chambered in 10mm and have the same design.
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Re: Replacement for the Stechkin pistol; The Glock 17

Post by Phalanx300 » #23663

Steelpoint wrote:Only semi-relevant but here's a mock up of how I think a good base loadout for a Operative would go. Leaving plenty of wiggle room for more stuff. I made this a while ago/

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Space is not as huge an issue for Nuke Ops if they plan out correctly.
Wait we can have belt and backpack slots open at same time? Wow. As for that jetpack, thats also good to know.
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