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Nerf ninja.

Post by Cayce » #21170

The Ninja shouldn't be able to invisibly teleport behind someone and gib them in a split second before they can move or do anything, it's incredibly broken and in bad spirit.

Yes, I'm mad, because I had an antag round of mine fucked over by an admin spawned ninja who ghosted in behind me and removed me from the round without any chance of escaping at all.

That is all.
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Re: Nerf ninja.

Post by Steelpoint » #21171

Ninja's been quite the hot topic.

Here are two other recent threads on the Space Ninja.

Can we make Space Ninja less stupidly broken? Please?
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Re: Nerf ninja.

Post by Cayce » #21181

Ah! Missed those!

Please disregard.
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Re: Nerf ninja.

Post by paprika » #21260

Once the feature freeze is over, I'm working on something to address this.
Kwisatz wrote:an admin spawned ninja who ghosted in behind me and removed me from the round without any chance of escaping at all.
admins rarely spawn ninjas, are you sure
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Re: Nerf ninja.

Post by Cayce » #21319

I thought ninjas were admin spawn only?
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Re: Nerf ninja.

Post by Cipher3 » #21334

Kwisatz wrote:I thought ninjas were admin spawn only?
Noooooo

Almost all ninjas are random events.
Spoiler:
Nathanael Greene has made a woman of Bryce Pax!

Valerie Sinnet says, "Nathaniel Greene charged the brig with a fucking HONK."

[Common] Assists-the-Crew hisses, "Walker Quinn s-s-s-ss-stole the HoP's-s-s-ss-s door"

OOC: HotelBravoLima: I literally can't be removed from power.


I demand this ban be lifted right now. ~Bibliodewangus

Erin Wake whispers, "You should ready up on Badger and boink with me..."

"I think you guys are just tired of drinking hitler and now you want diet hitler.
I've got all that great hitler flavor but only half the hitler calories." - Anon3

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that PR matters. ~MisterPerson

DEAD: Ichigo Momomiya says, "Coravin's just an ass."

Linus Johnson says, "Hey you know I got this game Skyrim last week"
Linus Johnson says, "I have a level 19 ranger and its so fun"
Weston Zadovsky says, "did he just"
Weston Zadovsky says, "fucking hell"

The emergency shuttle has been called. It will arrive in 10 minutes.
Nature of emergency:
Coravin, just Coravin.

Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Fucking get out."
Coravin Vattes asks, "Please?"
Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Please get the fuck outta my lab."
Coravin Vattes exclaims, "Okay!"
[Common] Beryl Nyuphoran {RD} asks, "WHO GAVE CORAVIN ALL ACCESS?"

Lindsay Donk stammers, "L-Luc-ck w-was-s-s s-s-such-h a beaut-tifu p-p-p-pr-r-rom-m q-q-q-queen"

Ty Andrews curls up in a ball on the floor and purrs.

by oranges » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:15 pm
Get out bluespace, you've not been relevant since you lost the elections

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Re: Nerf ninja.

Post by ExplosiveCrate » #21337

They're a random event that happens pretty rarely, and it's even more rare for it to be enjoyable. Most ninjas that know the mechanics use their visor to antag hunt and "accidentally" gib the AI.
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Re: Nerf ninja.

Post by paprika » #21360

Ninjas waste less power by throwing a dart at someone and eswording them to death instead of using cloak to go around them. That's a fundementally flawed system. Ninja is supposed to be super hardmode, but not hard enough that it makes you not want to even do your objectives. Ninja should also be incredibly more stealth-capable, telefragging should be outright removed and the sword should be nerfed. Darts, the less powerful and more spammable magic missile, will likely be nerfed as well.

Whoever thought 70 brute esword that acted like an emag and could slice tables in half was a totally rad idea needs to be strung up already.
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Re: Nerf ninja.

Post by Cipher3 » #21383

That is pretty rad. It's just awful in a video game.
Spoiler:
Nathanael Greene has made a woman of Bryce Pax!

Valerie Sinnet says, "Nathaniel Greene charged the brig with a fucking HONK."

[Common] Assists-the-Crew hisses, "Walker Quinn s-s-s-ss-stole the HoP's-s-s-ss-s door"

OOC: HotelBravoLima: I literally can't be removed from power.


I demand this ban be lifted right now. ~Bibliodewangus

Erin Wake whispers, "You should ready up on Badger and boink with me..."

"I think you guys are just tired of drinking hitler and now you want diet hitler.
I've got all that great hitler flavor but only half the hitler calories." - Anon3

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that PR matters. ~MisterPerson

DEAD: Ichigo Momomiya says, "Coravin's just an ass."

Linus Johnson says, "Hey you know I got this game Skyrim last week"
Linus Johnson says, "I have a level 19 ranger and its so fun"
Weston Zadovsky says, "did he just"
Weston Zadovsky says, "fucking hell"

The emergency shuttle has been called. It will arrive in 10 minutes.
Nature of emergency:
Coravin, just Coravin.

Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Fucking get out."
Coravin Vattes asks, "Please?"
Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Please get the fuck outta my lab."
Coravin Vattes exclaims, "Okay!"
[Common] Beryl Nyuphoran {RD} asks, "WHO GAVE CORAVIN ALL ACCESS?"

Lindsay Donk stammers, "L-Luc-ck w-was-s-s s-s-such-h a beaut-tifu p-p-p-pr-r-rom-m q-q-q-queen"

Ty Andrews curls up in a ball on the floor and purrs.

by oranges » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:15 pm
Get out bluespace, you've not been relevant since you lost the elections

That said, I think there are a shitton of degenerates here and I'd probably gas the lot of you if I had the chance. ~Loonikus


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Re: Nerf ninja.

Post by Steelpoint » #21385

It would be fantastic for a single player game, but this ain't one.
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Re: Nerf ninja.

Post by Kuraudo » #21490

Stop asking about everything being nerfed. Thank you.
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Re: Nerf ninja.

Post by Cipher3 » #21518

Spoiler:
Guys we need to nerf Sec they have way too much good stun and a lot of armor against brute. Antagonists have to spend money to get stuff like that.

These discussions aren't getting very far. What's needed is for someone to code the changes, tell everyone what they are, get the instant thumbs-up they will probably get, and implement them.
Spoiler:
Nathanael Greene has made a woman of Bryce Pax!

Valerie Sinnet says, "Nathaniel Greene charged the brig with a fucking HONK."

[Common] Assists-the-Crew hisses, "Walker Quinn s-s-s-ss-stole the HoP's-s-s-ss-s door"

OOC: HotelBravoLima: I literally can't be removed from power.


I demand this ban be lifted right now. ~Bibliodewangus

Erin Wake whispers, "You should ready up on Badger and boink with me..."

"I think you guys are just tired of drinking hitler and now you want diet hitler.
I've got all that great hitler flavor but only half the hitler calories." - Anon3

You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that PR matters. ~MisterPerson

DEAD: Ichigo Momomiya says, "Coravin's just an ass."

Linus Johnson says, "Hey you know I got this game Skyrim last week"
Linus Johnson says, "I have a level 19 ranger and its so fun"
Weston Zadovsky says, "did he just"
Weston Zadovsky says, "fucking hell"

The emergency shuttle has been called. It will arrive in 10 minutes.
Nature of emergency:
Coravin, just Coravin.

Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Fucking get out."
Coravin Vattes asks, "Please?"
Beryl Nyuphoran says, "Please get the fuck outta my lab."
Coravin Vattes exclaims, "Okay!"
[Common] Beryl Nyuphoran {RD} asks, "WHO GAVE CORAVIN ALL ACCESS?"

Lindsay Donk stammers, "L-Luc-ck w-was-s-s s-s-such-h a beaut-tifu p-p-p-pr-r-rom-m q-q-q-queen"

Ty Andrews curls up in a ball on the floor and purrs.

by oranges » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:15 pm
Get out bluespace, you've not been relevant since you lost the elections

That said, I think there are a shitton of degenerates here and I'd probably gas the lot of you if I had the chance. ~Loonikus


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