Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
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Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Okay, I get it, because MSO coded fastmos we're stuck with it.
But that doesn't magically make spacewind compatible with the prior station layouts.
I propose that hull airlocks to space be given a cycling system wherein only one door can be open at a time, and the hall between two airlocks be given a cycle button to quickly close the exterior airlock.
The problem with airlocks and spacewind now is that you are able to open the inside airlock and the exterior airlock at the same time, leading to a breach that sucks the crew member in the airlock out again. This needs to be dealt with, and a cycling mechanism is the easiest way to do that.
I always felt that a cycling mechanism was missing from the station designs, but now it is essential.
But that doesn't magically make spacewind compatible with the prior station layouts.
I propose that hull airlocks to space be given a cycling system wherein only one door can be open at a time, and the hall between two airlocks be given a cycle button to quickly close the exterior airlock.
The problem with airlocks and spacewind now is that you are able to open the inside airlock and the exterior airlock at the same time, leading to a breach that sucks the crew member in the airlock out again. This needs to be dealt with, and a cycling mechanism is the easiest way to do that.
I always felt that a cycling mechanism was missing from the station designs, but now it is essential.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Fuck.
Space wind.
It is honestly the most awful thing I've seen in this game.
This is comparing it to shit like slowspace, stungloves, LAGuloth, and the several dozen hilariously broken/buggy thing goofchem has gone through.
All those things above were either bad gameplay or bad coding. They've also all been (to various degrees) fixed.
Our current atmos is just plain FRUSTRATING.
Like holy shit, when I see someone (or myself) getting fucked by fastmos, either gettin endlessly pulled back for a minute. Or someone flood ANY gas, ANYWHERE causing fucking pressure differences that make walking down a perfectly safe corridor a 5 minute chore, and walkin through a side door an all but impossible task, all I can think is of is memesters on git spouting "I thought you guys wanted a more lethal station?"
Fuck you. This shit is not more lethal.
It is not more fun.
It does not improve gameplay for anyone.
I never see anyone complimening fastmos
I constantly see people bitching about it.
Why are we stuck with it?
Edit: Proper cycling airlocks would be neat either way, but I asked about it one time, an was given some reason or another for why it wasn't practical, can't remember.
Space wind.
It is honestly the most awful thing I've seen in this game.
This is comparing it to shit like slowspace, stungloves, LAGuloth, and the several dozen hilariously broken/buggy thing goofchem has gone through.
All those things above were either bad gameplay or bad coding. They've also all been (to various degrees) fixed.
Our current atmos is just plain FRUSTRATING.
Like holy shit, when I see someone (or myself) getting fucked by fastmos, either gettin endlessly pulled back for a minute. Or someone flood ANY gas, ANYWHERE causing fucking pressure differences that make walking down a perfectly safe corridor a 5 minute chore, and walkin through a side door an all but impossible task, all I can think is of is memesters on git spouting "I thought you guys wanted a more lethal station?"
Fuck you. This shit is not more lethal.
It is not more fun.
It does not improve gameplay for anyone.
I never see anyone complimening fastmos
I constantly see people bitching about it.
Why are we stuck with it?
Edit: Proper cycling airlocks would be neat either way, but I asked about it one time, an was given some reason or another for why it wasn't practical, can't remember.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
We're stuck with it because the community has devolved to the point where criticizing anything triggers the many redditors among us.lumipharon wrote:Fuck.
Space wind.
It is honestly the most awful thing I've seen in this game.
This is comparing it to shit like slowspace, stungloves, LAGuloth, and the several dozen hilariously broken/buggy thing goofchem has gone through.
All those things above were either bad gameplay or bad coding. They've also all been (to various degrees) fixed.
Our current atmos is just plain FRUSTRATING.
Like holy shit, when I see someone (or myself) getting fucked by fastmos, either gettin endlessly pulled back for a minute. Or someone flood ANY gas, ANYWHERE causing fucking pressure differences that make walking down a perfectly safe corridor a 5 minute chore, and walkin through a side door an all but impossible task, all I can think is of is memesters on git spouting "I thought you guys wanted a more lethal station?"
Fuck you. This shit is not more lethal.
It is not more fun.
It does not improve gameplay for anyone.
I never see anyone complimening fastmos
I constantly see people bitching about it.
Why are we stuck with it?
Edit: Proper cycling airlocks would be neat either way, but I asked about it one time, an was given some reason or another for why it wasn't practical, can't remember.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
No its coders saying "DONT REMOVE MAH FEATURES I WORKED HARD ON THAT BLARARDSFGHDFH"
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
just close the airlocks behind you
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
t. someone who apparently doesn't spacewalk.PKPenguin321 wrote:just close the airlocks behind you
You can't close the airlock because you are either always inside the doorway being sucked out, or you've gone too far and opened the inner airlock and air is now rushing out and pushing you with it.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Step to using an airlock:Tunder wrote:t. someone who apparently doesn't spacewalk.PKPenguin321 wrote:just close the airlocks behind you
You can't close the airlock because you are either always inside the doorway being sucked out, or you've gone too far and opened the inner airlock and air is now rushing out and pushing you with it.
1) Open external airlock, wait a second or two for the air to leave
2) Step into airlock
3) close external airlock
4) Open internal airlock
5) wait a second for the air to come back in
6) Rejoice
Or, if you're dragging something:
1) cry
2) rage
3) push the thing into the airlock, close the door behind it, and look for another airlock to come in by.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Spacewind + fastmos fucks over alien queens in hilarious ways.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
It took me 5 minutes to get inside a room once when I broke a single window ("I'm IMMUNE TO SPACE what a great idea this is!")Bluespace wrote:Spacewind + fastmos fucks over alien queens in hilarious ways.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
For anyone still around to remember the old virology airlock please just unfuck Fastmos and don't give us back the doors of perpetual failure.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
I hate myself for saying this, but, bay seems to cope just fine with cycling airlocks. Personally I never got why we didnt have cycling airlocks anyway. Adds a nice pinch of realism and also gives traitors a fun mechanic to fuck with and screw people over with.
Right now it sounds like we're in that shitty "in between" stage where one thing has been changed, but the map hasn't in order to keep it balanced/working.
Right now it sounds like we're in that shitty "in between" stage where one thing has been changed, but the map hasn't in order to keep it balanced/working.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Viro still has airlock doors you know. It's toxins with it's special controller thingie that breaks all the time.callanrockslol wrote:For anyone still around to remember the old virology airlock please just unfuck Fastmos and don't give us back the doors of perpetual failure.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Cycling airlocks is going to suck when the shuttle arrives.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
we would have to code cycling airlocks that dont suck for this to be plausible.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
lol i do it all the time, just close the airlock as you step in so it shuts before you can get pulled out (git gud)Tunder wrote:t. someone who apparently doesn't spacewalk.PKPenguin321 wrote:just close the airlocks behind you
You can't close the airlock because you are either always inside the doorway being sucked out, or you've gone too far and opened the inner airlock and air is now rushing out and pushing you with it.
spacewind is still a problem though, with things like breaches, but airlocks aren't too bad
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Steal Bay's. They've got "force inner/outer door" buttons (that show up with a nice red highlight and hazard triangle when the other door is also open) that allow someone to have both doors open at once if they really really mean it.Saegrimr wrote:Cycling airlocks is going to suck when the shuttle arrives.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
airlock cycling panel interfaces and buttons etc, need to be made constructable before we even think of doing this
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
So what exactly is fastmos? Slowspace's little turd of a child? I've experienced its shittiness, but I don't understand how it works or what its intended purpose is.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
I don't think anyone knows, but it's the host's code so good luck getting an admission that it's shit or a reversion. Best we can do is work with it.Saintish wrote:So what exactly is fastmos? Slowspace's little turd of a child? I've experienced its shittiness, but I don't understand how it works or what its intended purpose is.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Step 1. Remove pipes
Step 2. You're done, the airlocks won't cycle anymore.
Step 2. You're done, the airlocks won't cycle anymore.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Fastmos isn't anything unique. Its just our current atmos system running faster than it was last year.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Why not change how strong spacewind's push and pull is? Base it on w_class or something. Our old atmos system was incredibly slow and it would make things like scrubbing plasma impossible. Pretty much any atmos changes were permanent and fucked over the station.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Fastmos is great, because it means that atmos techs actually can refill breached areas with oxygen. Why would you want to go back to the old way where it took 20 minutes to just fill a small room back up with air?
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
It does. That's why it throws you all over the hallways now.JackHunt wrote:Why not change how strong spacewind's push and pull is? Base it on w_class or something. Our old atmos system was incredibly slow and it would make things like scrubbing plasma impossible. Pretty much any atmos changes were permanent and fucked over the station.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
You guys are mixing up fastmos and Cheridans space wind change.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
I assume it's the space wind change we should be bitching about then? I'm confused.
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Re: Give Hull Airlocks Cycling Mechanisms To Balance Fastmos
Remember when airlocks weren't solid for your tile?
You and the door could happily co-exist on the same tile, because they were considered to be behind your character, as if you'd been teleported onto/built underneath you a wall.
Good times.
You and the door could happily co-exist on the same tile, because they were considered to be behind your character, as if you'd been teleported onto/built underneath you a wall.
Good times.
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