2k17 /pol/

[XSI]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Trump does not actually have any official power yet

But he did bring back some jobs through negotiations already, though that was mostly just making it so that those jobs didn't end up leaving in the first place. Clearly he can already do things even without everything being official

Stock markets will always go up and down, that's just how they work. It is impossible for them to go up all the time, and policy on them is more just about hoping that you've left office by the time the whole thing collapses again.

[D&B]

I think Yeezy might perform for Trump.

[ShadowDimentio]

Yeah and I thought that the markets have been doing pretty well not just for the US but worldwide after Trump got voted for. The two are probably disconnected, but I think if anyone can run the US well it's Trump.

Ruskie-American coalition coming soon to a planet near you...

[PKPenguin321]

Speaking of stock market, why does seemingly nobody give a shit that Trump deregulated the market hardcore and created another bubble before he began his presidency?

iirc a stock market dip happens with literally every election and then stabilizes

[MrAlphonzo]

I know you're all smarter than this.
Stock market is going up, rapidly.
That is a bubble forming.
A bubble just like the one that came before the 2008 recession.
After George W Bush won.
Who also won due to poorly timed protest voting.
A bubble is forming because Trump said he'd drop taxes to 15% (Which is ludicrous)
Dropping taxes is deregulation of the market.
You have to be retarded if you think people won't take advantage of that.
Thats like bolting open the Vault as cap and acting surprised when people steal from it.

You DO know that the president can affect the economy drastically.
Again, FDR, and his cousin, Teddy.


If dropping taxes wasn't a big deal, Republicans wouldn't be begging for it constantly.

WHEN THAT BUBBLE POPS
AND WHEN YOU FEEL THE FULL AFFECT OF BREXIT
ITS ANOTHER GREAT DEPRESSION.

[XSI]

Dropping taxes is not deregulation, it is just an incentive to do more under the same rules, since the profit margin goes up. Though that is semantics

As far as the theory goes, this just grows the economy more and satisfies more demand. But in practice, it's going to grow and then run out of demand to satisfy, leaving it to either burst as a bubble, or shrink slowly. After which there will be a lot of complaints about how the economy isn't expanding and everything is bad.

The analogy with the bolted open vault is also wrong, as no stealing takes place as a result of dropping taxes. That already happens through the giant hole in the back of the vault that represents a shitton of tax loopholes that nobody ever seems to fix.

[Super Aggro Crag]

FDR put a bunch of Americans into a concentration camp, and his VP killed thousands of civilians to impress Stalin.

But its par for course for the Democrats, considering all the other times the party has enacted a policy of racial extermination and oppression and entering our country into massive costly wars, both on our own soil and abroad.

[D&B]

5 dead confirmed in latest airport shooting.

We haven't even broken the week yet fucks sake.

[Super Aggro Crag]

Which airport

[D&B]

Oh shit the shooters family lives in my town.

So many choppers it's crazy

[TheColdTurtle]

I went to that airport many times, nice place. What was the motivation? Was he just some coked up guy or whar?

[D&B]

PTSD apparently.

Dude kept hearing voices and stuff. Claimed he was being forced by CIA to infiltrate ISIS.

Knowing the vet centers in NJ he's probably saying the truth

[srifenbyxp]

>Asking director if I can wear my vest








So that's what the commotion was about, I thought some other lucky duck escaped the court house again.

[MrAlphonzo]

The President of Mexico makes some bold tweets telling Trump "I'm not gonna pay for that fucken wall" and suddenly Trump is running and crying to congress asking for them to take care of the bill. Hilariously pathetic.

[XSI]

Or, you know. Bills to implement his original payment plan of tariffs on Mexico to pay for that wall

[ShadowDimentio]

The President of Mexico makes some bold tweets telling Trump "I'm not gonna pay for that fucken wall" and suddenly Trump is running and crying to congress asking for them to take care of the bill. Hilariously pathetic.

Bold and Tweets are mutually exclusive.

Also what did you expect would happen for The Wall(TM), that el presidente of Mexico would personally write a check to Trump paying for it? Of course it was gonna be paid through tariffs.

[MrAlphonzo]

If that was the plan all along, then why didn't Trump say so during his campaign, and didn't wait til the last minute to tell taxpayers that they'd foot the bill?

:^)

[imblyings]

>democrats and libs still reaching for anything to stay afloat after senate confirms the vote
>that cucking when someone tried to object and got told, 'it is over'

>taxpayers footing the cost

you mean NON-CITIZEN """"""taxpayers""""""""""""""""""""""""

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

Mexico get given a choice, either pay for the wall or your millions of illegals sending money back to Mexico, an increase in visa fees, and businesses taking money from America pay for it.

I want to quote the last part of that pdf because it's objectively true and leaves no room for argument.

We have the moral high ground here, and all the leverage. It is time we use it in order to Make America Great Again

[TheColdTurtle]

>high ground

Spoiler:

[imblyings]

Leaves no room for argument.

Call me when Mexico provides safety and welfare to her own citizens who need it.

[DemonFiren]

In this age of political cartoons turned reality I'm just waiting for the Liberal Crime Squad to form and put this mad world back where it belongs.

[ShadowDimentio]

In this age of political cartoons turned reality I'm just waiting for the Liberal Crime Squad to form and put this mad world back where it belongs.

BLM is already there

[MrAlphonzo]

>democrats and libs still reaching for anything to stay afloat after senate confirms the vote
>that cucking when someone tried to object and got told, 'it is over'

>taxpayers footing the cost

you mean NON-CITIZEN """"""taxpayers""""""""""""""""""""""""

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

Mexico get given a choice, either pay for the wall or your millions of illegals sending money back to Mexico, an increase in visa fees, and businesses taking money from America pay for it.

I want to quote the last part of that pdf because it's objectively true and leaves no room for argument.

We have the moral high ground here, and all the leverage. It is time we use it in order to Make America Great Again

I think you missed the point.
Taxpayers are going to front the cost.
As in we pay for it.
Then after an unknown period of time, we will get that money back from Mexico.
We might end up making less money from immigration, because raising immigration prices encourages people to find other methods to get into the country, if they can't afford it.

And I'm really not sure that forcing a country to pay for something they don't want is exactly a "Moral high ground"
Your lord and savior Edward Snowden is a hero for breaking the law and whistleblowing something completely and utterly obvious, but god forbid someone sneaks their family into the country so they don't get shot by the cartel.

[Super Aggro Crag]

If these Mexican motherfuckers are supposedly fleeing drugs, violence and poverty why they fucking carrying it with them into our country? Go shill for hill on Gallows Hill and hang yourself until u r Kill

[imblyings]

>And I'm really not sure that forcing a country to pay for something they don't want is exactly a "Moral high ground"

>be mexico
>be completely aware of your citizens illegally working and sending back money
>do nothing about it because your government is incompetent and has no money to spend on welfare anyway
>screech autisticly when the foreign country your criminal citizens are leeching from says it's time to stop
>have cartels running loose
>do your best to disarm law-abiding people while criminals don't care and do their best to outdo ISIS with gore vids
>screech autisticly when the foreign country your cartels are ruining says it's time to stop
>cause millions of dollars in damages and loss of life to said foreign country because of your incompetence and foreign country quite rightfully says to fuck off cunt you're paying me back for all the shit you've done
>screech autisticly in response
>notice dumb libshits and democrats screeching autisticly in unison with you across the world
>screech autisticly together

one day people like yourself will realize what it takes to make not only america great again but also mexico great again. It is a shame that you have to autisticly screech but it's not even your fault, years and years of programming by mainstream and social media does that to a person. The sheer denial and mental gymnastics performed by some of you lot will take several years to get rid of but I have hope that it will be. You're already halfway there, I'm sure you have good intentions buried deep in all that virtue signalling, you just need to come around to the right way of carrying them out.

[MrAlphonzo]

After months of denial about Russian hacking, Trump finally gets briefed and comes out to say "Yes, they did try to influence the election." Now, we've gone from "WHERES MUH PROOF" to a deep conspiracy about Trump, Obama, the entirety of US intelligence lying about Putin interfering with the election because [????????], OR Russia interfering with the election is somehow not a bad thing. Denial is a hell of a drug.

On top of this, I've been hypnotized by mainstream media.

THATS IT.
THAT WAS THE LAST STRAW.
THAT WAS THE LAST BRAIN CELL I'M WILLING TO LOSE.
I'M DONE.
I'M TAGGING OUT OF /POL/.
I'M GONNA LET THE DOOR HIT ME ON MY WAY OUT.
FUCK IT.

SEE YOU ALL WHEN THE GREAT DEPRESSION STARTS AGAIN.
WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS GOING TO BE CAUSED BY TRUMP AND BREXIT.
TRY TO PIN THAT SHIT ON OBAMA ALL YOU WANT, BUT YOU KNOW DEEP DOWN WHOSE FAULT IT REALLY IS.

[ShadowDimentio]

After months of denial about Russian hacking, Trump finally gets briefed and comes out to say "Yes, they did try to influence the election." Now, we've gone from "WHERES MUH PROOF" to a deep conspiracy about Trump, Obama, the entirety of US intelligence lying about Putin interfering with the election because [????????], OR Russia interfering with the election is somehow not a bad thing.

[XSI]

Stuff on Mexico

I'm Dutch, here's my stance on the wall:
If the dyke to a sewage drain broke, it's leaking all its sewage into your backyard and it is endangering the people living there. Do you:
A. Fix it up and build a bigger dyke
Or
B. Let it happen
This is not hard, this is exactly what I'd expect from a president when this situation is happening.

I'M DONE.
I'M TAGGING OUT OF /POL/.
I'M GONNA LET THE DOOR HIT ME ON MY WAY OUT.
FUCK IT.

Spoiler:

[Super Aggro Crag]

Stay gone, chump.

When Obama's jenga stack of an economy falls and you attempt to "flee poverty and oppression" by running the Canadian border, I hope your violent autistic spasms will be considered threatening by the country that actually enforces immigration laws and you get shot by a mooserider.

[ShadowDimentio]

I've heard that the Canadians are total assholes at the border. The visa application for an American trying to get in Canada is absolutely arduous, everyone else can just walk right in though. FILTHY LEAFERS, NUKE CANADA NOW

[DemonFiren]

I'm just gonna repeat "you're all memeing, right, you can't seriously be this retarded" until I receive confirmation that this is the case.

[Grazyn]

After months of denial about Russian hacking, Trump finally gets briefed and comes out to say "Yes, they did try to influence the election." Now, we've gone from "WHERES MUH PROOF" to a deep conspiracy about Trump, Obama, the entirety of US intelligence lying about Putin interfering with the election because [????????], OR Russia interfering with the election is somehow not a bad thing. Denial is a hell of a drug.

On top of this, I've been hypnotized by mainstream media.

THATS IT.
THAT WAS THE LAST STRAW.
THAT WAS THE LAST BRAIN CELL I'M WILLING TO LOSE.
I'M DONE.
I'M TAGGING OUT OF /POL/.
I'M GONNA LET THE DOOR HIT ME ON MY WAY OUT.
FUCK IT.

SEE YOU ALL WHEN THE GREAT DEPRESSION STARTS AGAIN.
WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS GOING TO BE CAUSED BY TRUMP AND BREXIT.
TRY TO PIN THAT SHIT ON OBAMA ALL YOU WANT, BUT YOU KNOW DEEP DOWN WHOSE FAULT IT REALLY IS.

It's not like Trump voters didn't believe Russians were behind the hacks and election interference thing, they simply didn't care. Like they didn't care about most "bombshells" dropped by the MSM that were supposed to somehow sway voters away from him. That's a key point that most dems seem to miss but that from an outside view is perfectly obvious. So they kept going with stuff like "See Trump actually said this thing, he actually did this other thing, he actually did commit this crime" and so on, completely oblivious to the fact that NOBODY FUCKING CARED (not to mention those who were swayed back to him BECAUSE he said and did those things)

[oranges]

>drug sellers in mexico provide legitimate service to american citizens for their own enjoyment
>used to do this peacefully
>nixon declares war on drugs
>cartels get violent to compete on squeezed market

>2017

[oranges]

Also I have to say I'm looking forward to american tears when their blue collar jobs get replaced by robots.

Finally a reason to kill all the dumb people off

[imblyings]

oranges you need to step up your game you're hardly sport compared to alphonzo

[Saegrimr]

Also I have to say I'm looking forward to american tears when their blue collar jobs get replaced by robots.

tfw neet

[oranges]

oranges you need to step up your game you're hardly sport compared to alphonzo

>2017

[imblyings]

oranges you need to step up your game you're hardly sport compared to alphonzo

>2017

(You)

[DemonFiren]

Oranges is right because I agree with his political views.

[Wyzack]

Come on, its 2017!

[oranges]

BUZZ FEED OFF THE DEEP END, /pol/ CLAIMING THEY DID IT.

WHAT'S NEXT, WHO WON? YOU DECIDE

[ShadowDimentio]

NOTORIOUS HACKER 4CHAN STRIKES AGAIN!

THIS JUST IN, 4CHAN HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY OUR SOURCES TO BE BOTH A RUSSIAN AND A TRUMP SUPPORTER. WILL THE PRESIDENT-ELECT AND RUSSIANS STOP AT NOTHING TO SLANDER OUR HONEST JOURNALISM?

[Super Aggro Crag]

What happen?

[Screemonster]

buzzfeed ran a story about HOLY SHIT BREAKING NEWS TRUMP HIRED OUT A HOTEL ROOM THAT OBAMA HAD SLEPT IN AND HIRED PROSTITUTES TO PISS ON THE BED TO TAKE A SWIPE AT OBAMA in 100% seriousness and now some 4chan posts have surfaced from months ago along the lines of "lol i wonder if we can convince that dipshit at buzzfeed that trump has a piss fetish"

I might be missing someing but that's the general gist of the (admittedly conflicting) stories I've heard so far

[onleavedontatme]

>an unverified vague 4chan shitpost vs an unverified buzzfeed published screencap with highlighter on it
>people just believe whichever they think is funnier

Dilbert man was right, objective reality just flat out doesnt matter to anyone

[XSI]

And it never did

That said, even if he had a piss fetish...So what?
Does that actually matter for being a president?

[ShadowDimentio]

I sincerely doubt that it actually happened, but even if it did, so what? Trump is president, piss fetish or no.

[onleavedontatme]

Him having a fetish isn't the problem (even if people will make lots of jokes about it), but if he was being blackmailed about said fetish (or being blackmailed about anything for that matter) it'd be worrying.

[ShadowDimentio]

I sincerely doubt that Trump, or any president, would buckle to such shabby blackmail. You'd have to be trancendently retarded to try and blackmail the most powerful person on earth with "Well, he's into watersports!", especially when, with a wave of the hand, you'd have the FBI beating on your door within a day.

[XSI]

That's the thing, mostly.

If you want to blackmail someone, it's going to have to be with something that actually hurts them if it gets released. So generally criminal acts or other similarly charged things work
A piss fetish? Not really a big deal. A movie theatre screening hentai full of prostitutes? Not that strange for a rich guy, just decadent as fuck.

[Malkevin]

I thought buzz feed died last year?