Excessive Vote Manipulation on /tg/
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Excessive Vote Manipulation on /tg/
This isn't relegated to just the recent and controversial feline vote. It seems at every turn when it comes to counting votes the desired results of the people in charge somehow always become the default option, or the option with 4 ways of voting for it, and only a single way to vote against it. On top of this, they host the votes in rounds, rather then just taking the vote as it was from the outset, moving the default option to the one they wanted.
This happens with restart votes too. If you don't vote, you're counted as a no vote, rather then as not voting at all, so even if a voting majority decides to restart, the restart will more then likely not take place because the majority of players did not participate in the vote.
It doesn't matter what the vote is, the monarchs in charge will find a way to count them the way they want them to add up.
This happens with restart votes too. If you don't vote, you're counted as a no vote, rather then as not voting at all, so even if a voting majority decides to restart, the restart will more then likely not take place because the majority of players did not participate in the vote.
It doesn't matter what the vote is, the monarchs in charge will find a way to count them the way they want them to add up.
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Re: Excessive Vote Manipulation on /tg/
You think I can read?Qustinnus wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting
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Qustinnus wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting
Yeah TG does pretty much the laziest version of IRV and fails victims to all the issues it has. IRV was built/ geared
More for candidates direct voting. On issue voting it becomes sensitive to option questioning and double barrel pitfalls.
One way to combat this is to do a top two run off vote and also have a null after this option with a barrier to success of a percentage of voting base.
I've brought this up and been called delusional even though it's a issue I stated that's beyond the cat vote. Hell read your wiki link it goes into all this.
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Issue votes are better done via 4 point Likert scale, with no neutral option. It helps you get both the intensity of like or dislike as well as the ratio on any particular issue.
Its what we do in sociological studies in my fancy pants university.
Ranked choice voting doesnt work very well as you cant judge the distance of preference between the options. And if I would use ranked choice I would use it along side a Likert scale so you can better judge the overall attitude.
Also the questions in the last felinid poll were pretty trademark leading questions filled with false choices. As well as a mismatch in the options.
You dont run a ranked choice poll on a question when there are really only 2 options, it is bad poll design.
Its what we do in sociological studies in my fancy pants university.
Ranked choice voting doesnt work very well as you cant judge the distance of preference between the options. And if I would use ranked choice I would use it along side a Likert scale so you can better judge the overall attitude.
Also the questions in the last felinid poll were pretty trademark leading questions filled with false choices. As well as a mismatch in the options.
You dont run a ranked choice poll on a question when there are really only 2 options, it is bad poll design.
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Restart votes don't even work if an admin is online, you are all not so secretly under the adminbus boot. Democracy is dead, long live the INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS tower
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you are spending too much time worrying about the voting system in a 2d spessman game.
THere's very little direct democracy, the codebase is an autocracy in a nuclear cold war with the server, the server is a dictatorship with a benevolent dictator who lets an elected council run it.
The particular style of voting for things doesn't matter because it rarely comes up.
THere's very little direct democracy, the codebase is an autocracy in a nuclear cold war with the server, the server is a dictatorship with a benevolent dictator who lets an elected council run it.
The particular style of voting for things doesn't matter because it rarely comes up.
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Having four options for and one against your personal vendetta is pretty scummy, it's also worded in such a way that implies the user had to sacrifice felines in return for cool new races when in reality those new races would soon come around anyway.
I don't think someone orchestrating a rigged vote has any right to say we're worrying too much about it. A player vote is for the players to make, not the guy setting it up
I don't think someone orchestrating a rigged vote has any right to say we're worrying too much about it. A player vote is for the players to make, not the guy setting it up
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Wording your post to imply the new races would soon come around anyway despite that being a complete and utter lie is pretty scummy, digdug. I don't think someone orchestrating slander has any right to say """"we"""" are worrying too little about it. A player vote is for the headmins to spend a week deciding on the wording of, not for an uninvolved guy to decide is unfair.
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You have absolutely zero representation, the vote was a nicety, not something I had to do.Digdugxx wrote:Having four options for and one against your personal vendetta is pretty scummy, it's also worded in such a way that implies the user had to sacrifice felines in return for cool new races when in reality those new races would soon come around anyway.
I don't think someone orchestrating a rigged vote has any right to say we're worrying too much about it. A player vote is for the players to make, not the guy setting it up
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>not knowing how IRV worksDigdugxx wrote:Having four options for and one against your personal vendetta is pretty scummy, it's also worded in such a way that implies the user had to sacrifice felines in return for cool new races when in reality those new races would soon come around anyway.
I don't think someone orchestrating a rigged vote has any right to say we're worrying too much about it. A player vote is for the players to make, not the guy setting it up
>implying IPCs weren't closed
>implying it's rigged
>implying oranges couldn't have just merged the pr if he wanted to because he can do that as headcoder
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What I'm saying is if there were just two options. One to keep them and one to remove them, the results would be different since users wouldn't be bribed with the promise of new races. As for being 'nice', we all know how unpopular Lziman was once he forcefully removed races without a word so this is more to cover your own ass.
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Two options doesn't have compromises like partially remove or replace with something betterDigdugxx wrote:What I'm saying is if there were just two options. One to keep them and one to remove them, the results would be different since users wouldn't be bribed with the promise of new races. As for being 'nice', we all know how unpopular Lziman was once he forcefully removed races without a word so this is more to cover your own ass.
Also >implying people don't already hate oranges for the poll
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From a neutral standpoint, it is obvious that the result of this vote cannot be taken at face value. The bribery aspect, which was also not truthful ontop of that, is the most severe infraction of the poll-neutrality that stands out.
What I wonder is, what the personal issue of the person that presented these vote options is with those felinids. Because I doubt it's all just incompetence, especially if a seasoned coder was heavily involved. So, what warrants such a flagrant abuse of poll-neutrality, to the detriment of people in favor of felinids?
What I wonder is, what the personal issue of the person that presented these vote options is with those felinids. Because I doubt it's all just incompetence, especially if a seasoned coder was heavily involved. So, what warrants such a flagrant abuse of poll-neutrality, to the detriment of people in favor of felinids?
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take out those options and removal still wins.Digdugxx wrote:What I'm saying is if there were just two options. One to keep them and one to remove them, the results would be different since users wouldn't be bribed with the promise of new races. As for being 'nice', we all know how unpopular Lziman was once he forcefully removed races without a word so this is more to cover your own ass.
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anime avatar [x] checkBONERMASTER wrote:From a neutral standpoint, it is obvious that the result of this vote cannot be taken at face value. The bribery aspect, which was also not truthful ontop of that, is the most severe infraction of the poll-neutrality that stands out.
What I wonder is, what the personal issue of the person that presented these vote options is with those felinids. Because I doubt it's all just incompetence, especially if a seasoned coder was heavily involved. So, what warrants such a flagrant abuse of poll-neutrality, to the detriment of people in favor of felinids?
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yep, we have a live one
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You forgot the 2018 joindate
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That feels really hurtful. I don't want to put you down, or make myself more important than anyone. But I see that one group of players is very unfairly treated by this poll, and I want to know why.
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did you all just not read this or whatoranges wrote:you are spending too much time worrying about the voting system in a 2d spessman game.
THere's very little direct democracy, the codebase is an autocracy in a nuclear cold war with the server, the server is a dictatorship with a benevolent dictator who lets an elected council run it.
The particular style of voting for things doesn't matter because it rarely comes up.
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fuck it, take out those options then if they demand it so much, full removal here we gooranges wrote:take out those options and removal still wins.Digdugxx wrote:What I'm saying is if there were just two options. One to keep them and one to remove them, the results would be different since users wouldn't be bribed with the promise of new races. As for being 'nice', we all know how unpopular Lziman was once he forcefully removed races without a word so this is more to cover your own ass.
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BONERMASTER wrote:From a neutral standpoint, it is obvious that the result of this vote cannot be taken at face value. The bribery aspect, which was also not truthful ontop of that, is the most severe infraction of the poll-neutrality that stands out.
What I wonder is, what the personal issue of the person that presented these vote options is with those felinids. Because I doubt it's all just incompetence, especially if a seasoned coder was heavily involved. So, what warrants such a flagrant abuse of poll-neutrality, to the detriment of people in favor of felinids?
You are not taking into account the feelings of the people not in favor of felinids. The poll had options that people could choose, and a certain option won. It is hurtful to the players who earnestly participated in the democratic process, stated their opinions, and now have others trying to condemn and shame them for their views, as well as reverse their rightfully earned result. One group of players would be very unfairly treated by the reversal of this poll's consequences. I want to know why you think that'd be OK.BONERMASTER wrote:That feels really hurtful. I don't want to put you down, or make myself more important than anyone. But I see that one group of players is very unfairly treated by this poll, and I want to know why.
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I don't think you are being sincere here. But before we talk about reversing the poll, we have to talk about it's legitimacy. To remove someone's favourite race is an extreme measure, and I would expect that at least the poll itself would be unbiased to have the most clear picture of what the voters want. That, is not the case in this poll here. I have already stated, that there was a bribery aspect to it, which was also not truthful either, and there were I believe 4 options against felinids, every single one of which explicitly stated their removal as a roundstart race, and a singular one in favor of them, which all it said was that they may remain as is.Toronto88 wrote:BONERMASTER wrote:From a neutral standpoint, it is obvious that the result of this vote cannot be taken at face value. The bribery aspect, which was also not truthful ontop of that, is the most severe infraction of the poll-neutrality that stands out.[...]You are not taking into account the feelings of the people not in favor of felinids. The poll had options that people could choose, and a certain option won. It is hurtful to the players who earnestly participated in the democratic process, stated their opinions, and now have others trying to condemn and shame them for their views, as well as reverse their rightfully earned result. One group of players would be very unfairly treated by the reversal of this poll's consequences. I want to know why you think that'd be OK.BONERMASTER wrote:[...]I see that one group of players is very unfairly treated by this poll, and I want to know why.
I think these are very valid concerns, which put in question the motive and reasoning behind this vote, which I would like to know. Because these reasons must be weighted out against the desire for a not too small part of the playerbase to play as catgirls or interact with them. And if these reasons do not weigh out a very basic right of free expression, then a discussion about reversing the poll results is more than in order.
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Not only is it impossible to say "If you take out those options felinids still lose" (because it is physically impossible to tell how the vote would have gone without those options) it's also irrelevant. The point is that you attempted to slant the vote, oranges, not whether or not it worked.
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ahh the SPA is back
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aha, we have now proven they are not actually reading the finer details on any replies, will the mods ban this person for being a troll or will they make vague threats at me again over discord?afelinidisfinetoo wrote:Not only is it impossible to say "If you take out those options felinids still lose" (because it is physically impossible to tell how the vote would have gone without those options) it's also irrelevant. The point is that you attempted to slant the vote, oranges, not whether or not it worked.
(archived in case they try to whine about me misrepresenting them and edit their post to completely change what they meant)
oh wait, they won't, because Nervere is too busy sucking off Shezza over in their discord they share ownership of. Oops, was I not supposed to say that publicly? Oh well, it's out now.
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Re: Excessive Vote Manipulation on /tg/
It is impossible to tell how the vote would have gone without those options. See https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 00#p453892 discussion chain
You are getting really unhinged, goofball. I am not an alt-right Russian bot and I'm not messaging you on discord. I don't have discord installed on my computer. Get help for the paranoia.
You are getting really unhinged, goofball. I am not an alt-right Russian bot and I'm not messaging you on discord. I don't have discord installed on my computer. Get help for the paranoia.
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your suggestion is that the pro cat people were influenced by the options, but your only example is someone who was virulently anti catgirl.
Your evidence is specious at best, whereas I have the best evidence, an IRV poll, with ranked voting that allows me to eliminate votes and vote options according to filters and rerank according to peoples exact preferences, which means I know that removing the etherals and IPC options leaves remove catgirls as the highest option, indicating that adding those two options did little to change the overall vote outcome, but giving us more detailed information about the levels of tradeoff people were willing to accept should catgirls be removed.
Now of course none of this is really anything you care to hear, or acknowledge, let alone the fact that we have come up with a very workable and palatable compromise that everyone rational has agreed is pretty good. Because that doesn't fit your agenda, which is to convince people to ignore the outcome of the poll and align only with the option you feel is best fit for yourself.
I don't' know why I continue to play along with this mindless game where you repeat the same tired memes over and over and draw the same specious conclusions, but I guess I have more spare time while I'm currently on leave so I may as well indulge myself.
Your evidence is specious at best, whereas I have the best evidence, an IRV poll, with ranked voting that allows me to eliminate votes and vote options according to filters and rerank according to peoples exact preferences, which means I know that removing the etherals and IPC options leaves remove catgirls as the highest option, indicating that adding those two options did little to change the overall vote outcome, but giving us more detailed information about the levels of tradeoff people were willing to accept should catgirls be removed.
Now of course none of this is really anything you care to hear, or acknowledge, let alone the fact that we have come up with a very workable and palatable compromise that everyone rational has agreed is pretty good. Because that doesn't fit your agenda, which is to convince people to ignore the outcome of the poll and align only with the option you feel is best fit for yourself.
I don't' know why I continue to play along with this mindless game where you repeat the same tired memes over and over and draw the same specious conclusions, but I guess I have more spare time while I'm currently on leave so I may as well indulge myself.
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Re: Excessive Vote Manipulation on /tg/
is there any context to be given for this orafelinidisfinetoo wrote:It is impossible to tell how the vote would have gone without those options.
You are getting really unhinged, goofball. I am not an alt-right Russian bot and I'm not messaging you on discord. I don't have discord installed on my computer. Get help for the paranoia.
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Rofl why was catgirl removal paired with the bribe of adding a new cool race for no reason and given 4 options for removal but only 1 to keep, this is literally the dumbest vote ever and whoever came up with it should be hanged
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bottom textAnuv wrote:Rofl why was catgirl removal paired with the bribe of adding a new cool race for no reason and given 4 options for removal but only 1 to keep, this is literally the dumbest vote ever and whoever came up with it should be hanged
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GAMERS RISE UPoranges wrote:bottom textAnuv wrote:Rofl why was catgirl removal paired with the bribe of adding a new cool race for no reason and given 4 options for removal but only 1 to keep, this is literally the dumbest vote ever and whoever came up with it should be hanged
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if thess threads go on any longer I'm gonna fill up my loyalty card for a free salty bucket at colonel kernel's popcorn emporium
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Oranges, I would prefer if instead of tossing out one-liners, that you explained to this discussiongroup why you deemed it necessary to remove felinids, and why you chose to lay the poll out in a biased way. Because the statement "Replace felinids with Ethereals" insinuates that only by voting this option that the ethereal-race would be available, which is not true, the race was planned to enter the game the entire time, and it is also not relevant to the fate of the felinids. You knew this, I want to know what your motive was behind this vote.oranges wrote:bottom text
I want to add, that you referred to this poll, that is this discussion-point of vote manipulation and clearly flawed, as evidence of what the voters want. I would like to point out, that this is not valid evidence.
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The one liner is replying to an inane post that doesn't understand IRVBONERMASTER wrote:Oranges, I would prefer if instead of tossing out one-liners, that you explained to this discussiongroup why you deemed it necessary to remove felinids, and why you chose to lay the poll out in a biased way. Because the statement "Replace felinids with Ethereals" insinuates that only by voting this option that the ethereal-race would be available, which is not true, the race was planned to enter the game the entire time, and it is also not relevant to the fate of the felinids. You knew this, I want to know what your motive was behind this vote.oranges wrote:bottom text
I want to add, that you referred to this poll, that is this discussion-point of vote manipulation and clearly flawed, as evidence of what the voters want. I would like to point out, that this is not valid evidence.
Also it's totally valid remove wins even without the ethereal option
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Wrong. See https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 69#p454642somerandomguy wrote: Also it's totally valid remove wins even without the ethereal option
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Wrong. See "doesn't understand IRV"afelinidisfinetoo wrote:Wrong. See https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 69#p454642somerandomguy wrote: Also it's totally valid remove wins even without the ethereal option
This is so blatant it's obvious you don't care about the poll's validity, you're either salty or shitposting
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I RAPED ORANGES
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Still waiting on context or does answering this just not work for youiamgoofball wrote:is there any context to be given for this orafelinidisfinetoo wrote:It is impossible to tell how the vote would have gone without those options.
You are getting really unhinged, goofball. I am not an alt-right Russian bot and I'm not messaging you on discord. I don't have discord installed on my computer. Get help for the paranoia.
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I'm pretty sure in some other thread you said I was an alt-right bot, and in this one you accused me of harassing you on discord or somethingiamgoofball wrote:...
I don't pay very much attention to what you're saying so I might be wrong
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fact check next time dumbassafelinidisfinetoo wrote:I'm pretty sure in some other thread you said I was an alt-right bot, and in this one you accused me of harassing you on discord or somethingiamgoofball wrote:...
I don't pay very much attention to what you're saying so I might be wrong
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correction straight from snopes guys:afelinidisfinetoo wrote:I'm pretty sure in some other thread you said I was an alt-right bot, and in this one you accused me of harassing you on discord or somethingiamgoofball wrote:...
I don't pay very much attention to what you're saying so I might be wrong
goof called you an alt account of someone else and said you were using the alt right's playbook to further your argument (that means their tactics of argument, not their ideals)
this roughly translates to you're both dumb
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This is definitely a sawrge alt they're using the same phrasingafelinidisfinetoo wrote:It is impossible to tell how the vote would have gone without those options. See https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 00#p453892 discussion chain
You are getting really unhinged, goofball. I am not an alt-right Russian bot and I'm not messaging you on discord. I don't have discord installed on my computer. Get help for the paranoia.
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Re: Excessive Vote Manipulation on /tg/
afelinidsifinetoo and iamgoofball are doing an excellent job of making both sides of the debate look stupid. i wouldn't be surprised if it's actually goof's alt account being used to make the cat side look stupid.
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Re: Excessive Vote Manipulation on /tg/
So tell the players that instead of hiding behind rigged polls.oranges wrote: You have absolutely zero representation, the vote was a nicety, not something I had to do.
Oh wait anyone that disagrees with you is a catperson/weeb/alt account. You and goof truly are human garbage. Half this shit wouldn't even be drama if you didn't feel so entitled to being a prick to everyone.
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Re: Excessive Vote Manipulation on /tg/
plot twist, goof is felinid's alt account trying to make normal people look stupid
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Re: Excessive Vote Manipulation on /tg/
"the poll didnt go the way I wanted to SO ITS RIGGED"Zarniwoop wrote:
So tell the players that instead of hiding behind rigged polls.
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Re: Excessive Vote Manipulation on /tg/
The mere fact that the options were there impact how people think about the vote, though. You have evidence to show that removing catpeople would still win however it would still be physically impossible to see what would've won if the option(s) of 'hey guys if you vote this then catpeople will be removed and you will get to play as the john wick race or lame fucking robots but whatever' wasn't thereoranges wrote:which means I know that removing the etherals and IPC options leaves remove catgirls as the highest option, indicating that adding those two options did little to change the overall vote outcome, but giving us more detailed information about the levels of tradeoff people were willing to accept should catgirls be removed.
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