In round 133314, a traitor with the syndicate bee kit threw a beesease bottle and buzzkill grenade in medbay about 20 minutes after shift start. The bees which spawned contained chemicals which caused instant heart attacks in at least two people, and ended up with I believe 4 people dead, including most medbay staff by about 00:25-30 shift time.
The admin who was on at the time stated that Manuel's MRP rules do not prevent this behavior. Should they? Personally, I feel that killing an entire department early in the round without saying a word to them is pretty murderboney. To my knowledge, the person in question didn't do any "bee RP" or really bring anything to the round prior to this. AFTERWARDS, apparently he began roleplaying as an "ecoterrorist," espousing the virtues of bees. But medbay was still dead at that point, and never really got back off the ground to any level of efficacy.
I've included the contents of the bee syndicate kit below, and the buzzkill def. You'll notice it picks random items from the toxin datum, which includes a bunch of nasty chemicals. The admin in question said I should submit a PR rather than discuss policy, but I feel like this merits further discussion.
I'm really not saying "let's get rid of the package" or "random toxin bees are op," and I don't even think the person in question should be banned: that is not what this is about. This is about whether or not silently dropping spawner grenades which kill a whole department within 20 minutes of roundstart is the type of story intended to be told on Manuel.
Edit: maybe this should really be about bombing medbay roundstart.
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if("bee")
new /obj/item/paper/fluff/bee_objectives(src) // 0 tc (motivation)
new /obj/item/clothing/suit/hooded/bee_costume(src) // 0 tc
new /obj/item/clothing/mask/rat/bee(src) // 0 tc
new /obj/item/storage/belt/fannypack/yellow(src) // 0 tc
new /obj/item/grenade/spawnergrenade/buzzkill(src)
new /obj/item/grenade/spawnergrenade/buzzkill(src)
new /obj/item/reagent_containers/glass/bottle/beesease(src) // 10 tc?
new /obj/item/melee/beesword(src) //priceless
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/obj/item/grenade/spawnergrenade/buzzkill
name = "Buzzkill grenade"
desc = "The label reads: \"WARNING: DEVICE WILL RELEASE LIVE SPECIMENS UPON ACTIVATION. SEAL SUIT BEFORE USE.\" It is warm to the touch and vibrates faintly."
icon_state = "holy_grenade"
spawner_type = /mob/living/simple_animal/hostile/poison/bees/toxin
deliveryamt = 10
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/mob/living/simple_animal/hostile/poison/bees/toxin/Initialize()
. = ..()
var/datum/reagent/R = pick(typesof(/datum/reagent/toxin))
assign_reagent(GLOB.chemical_reagents_list[R])