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Istoprocent1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:36 pm Baseless claims. I have been to the vault minimum of 38 times, how many suicides?
Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:38 am Also even if this particular instance is not an unreasonable ban, and those two actually did do something legitimately shitty, you have to admit there's been far too many problematic drama bans in the past. This looked worryingly like another one of those at first glance.
Don't be needlessly reductive challenge difficulty level impossible.Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:14 am Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...
(Before anyone who claims "It was COORDINATED HARASSMENT"... trying to claim that a few flippant remarks about dissenting against the admin team's opinion, is harassment... is ridiculous)
In all sincerity, this trend is so common at this point over the past 5 years, that it's really made it hard to get invested in the community the same way as in the past. There's always going to be drama, shit-flinging, and grudges in any online gaming community (believe me, that's always been an issue here), but I really think certain admins are doing no favors to the health of this community by letting this problem continue to happen time after time.
And yeah, honestly I feel bad making this post. But I feel I need to be candid here about what I keep seeing as a recurring issue.
Certainly my post was meant to be bombastic to make a point. One that is probably moot now, but was trying to reflect a bigger issue that I do think has some validity. People do very often (not even on ss13) blow up problems, like someone having somewhat a shit attitude which they personally hate, and then twist/distort those attitudes into becoming perceived horrific offenses that can be used as reasons to get them kicked out/punished in places. For here, I probably didn't give it enough grace, and I definitely did skim past a few replies in this thread that might've made me more hesitant to post (I thought the victim was the whole admin team based off the explanation and ban reason, not 1 specific actual individual). However, aside from this individual situation, that general problem, I think a lot of us have had a creeping frustration about it happening, which desperately wants to boil over. This case just looked like (even if it actually was not) another example of that, at least to me. Anyways I try not to get involved, but that concept struck enough of a nerve to make me want to post something dramatic. And Player's Club is only officially 1 step above the Hut's waste grade, I believe.TheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 5:58 amDon't be needlessly reductive challenge difficulty level impossible.Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:14 am Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...
(Before anyone who claims "It was COORDINATED HARASSMENT"... trying to claim that a few flippant remarks about dissenting against the admin team's opinion, is harassment... is ridiculous)
In all sincerity, this trend is so common at this point over the past 5 years, that it's really made it hard to get invested in the community the same way as in the past. There's always going to be drama, shit-flinging, and grudges in any online gaming community (believe me, that's always been an issue here), but I really think certain admins are doing no favors to the health of this community by letting this problem continue to happen time after time.
And yeah, honestly I feel bad making this post. But I feel I need to be candid here about what I keep seeing as a recurring issue.
I've seen bits and pieces (I can't see the admin subforums but I can see screenshots/shit they discuss about it) and s shitty. Doesn't really matter cause mso is impossible to convince and at some point we are all (not me tho) just living under his thumb.
I get the urge for clarity it's rooted in how this community is run but like, they got banned for intentionally making admin's lives hell it seems kinda cruel to go "nuh uh" in response with no evidence either way.
Anyway forum posting is dumb go fix some code or like post on 4chan or somethin nothing said here will amount to anything but upsetting the people you say it to.
I miss the hut at least back them we all accepted it was garbage.
ausops wrote:apart from this there is literally nothing more to say other than that this is the first thread in five years to have achieved something.
Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:38 am Also even if this particular instance is not an unreasonable ban, and those two actually did do something legitimately shitty, you have to admit there's been far too many problematic drama bans in the past. This looked worryingly like another one of those at first glance.
Omg fikou this is just like digital circus because you have to keep being headmin and cant escape so you're going all crazy!!!! it is so beautiful the parallels between media and experienceFikou wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:45 amBawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:38 am Also even if this particular instance is not an unreasonable ban, and those two actually did do something legitimately shitty, you have to admit there's been far too many problematic drama bans in the past. This looked worryingly like another one of those at first glance.► Show Spoiler
Sorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:14 am Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...
no!!mrmelbert wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:25 amSorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:14 am Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...
Im wondering the same, it is possible they only got temp bans?Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:04 am My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?
I would assume it's the same thing as the cat metacord where different levels of involvement meant different levels of punishment, and only permanent bans appear on public bans.Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:04 am Seems the headmin team has weighed in with their own permaban on top of the blacklist. My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:04 am Seems the headmin team has weighed in with their own permaban on top of the blacklist. My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?
Probably this bit, here.Due to your extensive history, and receiving explicit proof of the above actions being your goals, we do not believe you are in this community in good faith or good will.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
Could just be there weren't any punishments handed out to bystanders this time around. It's not like meta issues where simply observing it is breaking the rules, so I don't think there's an obligation for people witnessing it happening to do something about it / get away from it if they aren't actively participating.Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:04 am Seems the headmin team has weighed in with their own permaban on top of the blacklist. My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?
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thehogshotgun wrote:How does having jannies like you, who have more brain tumor than brain benefit the server
But...but that includes you...mrmelbert wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:25 amSorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:14 am Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...
Two admins being deadmind, one of them being banned and another player being permad are also related to this according to the ten million vague posts coming in from people In The Know(tm) on the discordImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:04 am Seems the headmin team has weighed in with their own permaban on top of the blacklist. My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?
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joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
i think this is one of the worst takes ive seen8bot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:30 am i don't get it guys why are most of our servers dead for most of the day? i don't get it duhh??? GUH?!?!?!?
in seriousness what's been said itt about slash and burn shit is completely true. permabans and the like really are handed out like hotcakes and the server suffers for it; they mostly seem to be fueled by spite and anger from the jannies too, like they're passing down some divine judgment from providence or whatever the fuck
the objective shift in server culture over the last 2-3 years (not that shifts don't happen and haven't happened naturally, just speaking from what i observed as somebody in the thick of it) used permabans as a cudgel - one person gets banned, their circle feels unwelcome, stops playing. thing is, there are plenty of jannies that see that and say "good" not because they think the server's better for their absence, but because they're making somebody they don't like suffer.
there's lots of anger on both sides (inb4 disingenuous responses saying they're not mad) and tension, and in situations where it's admins vs. players the players kind of just have to leave. and the admins hate those particular players, so they're happy to see them go.
it's very sad to witness.
He said 3 admins were lost regarding this so I wonder who tf the third involved iscSeal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:00 amTwo admins being deadmind, one of them being banned and another player being permad are also related to this according to the ten million vague posts coming in from people In The Know(tm) on the discordImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:04 am Seems the headmin team has weighed in with their own permaban on top of the blacklist. My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?
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Of course the fact they did it in a metacord doesnt mean the entire thing was a harassment hub, its probably just something those two specifically said shit about idfk
who are you quoting?
I dunno I feel like he has *some* good points in there. Mainly the parts about how people will leave because of these bans, which isn't always a good thing.kinnebian wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:53 ami think this is one of the worst takes ive seen8bot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:30 am i don't get it guys why are most of our servers dead for most of the day? i don't get it duhh??? GUH?!?!?!?
in seriousness what's been said itt about slash and burn shit is completely true. permabans and the like really are handed out like hotcakes and the server suffers for it; they mostly seem to be fueled by spite and anger from the jannies too, like they're passing down some divine judgment from providence or whatever the fuck
the objective shift in server culture over the last 2-3 years (not that shifts don't happen and haven't happened naturally, just speaking from what i observed as somebody in the thick of it) used permabans as a cudgel - one person gets banned, their circle feels unwelcome, stops playing. thing is, there are plenty of jannies that see that and say "good" not because they think the server's better for their absence, but because they're making somebody they don't like suffer.
there's lots of anger on both sides (inb4 disingenuous responses saying they're not mad) and tension, and in situations where it's admins vs. players the players kind of just have to leave. and the admins hate those particular players, so they're happy to see them go.
it's very sad to witness.
Yeah, this is kinda pointless. We ain't going anywhere until/unless the Headmins/MSO post more evidenceTypicalRig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:27 am players feeling entitled to further information for a 2d spaceman game ban vs admins thinking going "just trust me bro" will work
pass me the popcorn
I agree with the extent of searching for something like this being a bit nuts and silly but if the ban reason is remotely true that’s equally mentally ill and pathetic in the course of obsessing over a 2d space game. That said it’s more likely someone prompted them to look there, I want to believe someone wasn’t just reading a convo of a server they weren’t in looking for something to nail ppl on for hours on end.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 8:26 pmyup pretty sadc4g wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 8:06 pm i hope im next at this point. i havent even done anything but i hope they find something to get me banned. make something up for all i care. if they're gonna go down the line banning deadminning and blacklisting all my friends then whats the fucking point of being here. waiting to see who's next to go? hanging out with everyone celebrating them being gone? i fucking hate this
MSO is known for making quick decision banning so i don't even blame him
after getting some details from sinful i can say that (if these details are true) that the current headmin team is absolutely fucking bonkers.
like spending hours of their time digging up enough information to ban people because they are literal fucking drama vampires bonkers. (this includes the recent admin deadminning and sun catton permaing)
Just like me having the inability of starting conflict without breaking escalation fr
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
8bot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:30 am in seriousness what's been said itt about slash and burn shit is completely true. permabans and the like really are handed out like hotcakes and the server suffers for it; they mostly seem to be fueled by spite and anger from the jannies too, like they're passing down some divine judgment from providence or whatever the fuck
the objective shift in server culture over the last 2-3 years (not that shifts don't happen and haven't happened naturally, just speaking from what i observed as somebody in the thick of it) used permabans as a cudgel - one person gets banned, their circle feels unwelcome, stops playing. thing is, there are plenty of jannies that see that and say "good" not because they think the server's better for their absence, but because they're making somebody they don't like suffer.
there's lots of anger on both sides (inb4 disingenuous responses saying they're not mad) and tension, and in situations where it's admins vs. players the players kind of just have to leave. and the admins hate those particular players, so they're happy to see them go.
it's very sad to witness.
🥹 ty I tried my hardest, I think it’s easy enough to follow
Exactly how I feelIndie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:44 pm That feel when the people who agree with your view of how the game should be get justly banned but now the people who want the game to be engaging and not a social life sim grows less and less (you will enjoy ze greenshift)
this is how he should've stayed. just a funny fuckin dude who played the game and was a pleasure to have in a round because he was a cool character that made the game more fun.soreyew wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:50 pm Damn I cant believe a community manager would permanently exorcise people who organized to manipulate the Democratically elected admins of /tg/station somebody send in the CIA for this clear violation of human rights
Edit: remembered a certified classic, posting in memoriam
https://streamable.com/t1cgqs
MrStonedOne wrote:I always read dendy's walls of text
Honestly none of this decides whether the game is going to be job sim or not, changes to Dynamic will set the pace. God I can't wait for the new new new Dynamic that's going to save us allIndie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:44 pm That feel when the people who agree with your view of how the game should be get justly banned but now the people who want the game to be engaging and not a social life sim grows less and less (you will enjoy ze greenshift)
I have unlimited compassion for a persons ability to grow. Their pattern of behavior across two communities I've been members of now, sadly has me not expecting much.dendydoom wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:12 pmthis is how he should've stayed. just a funny fuckin dude who played the game and was a pleasure to have in a round because he was a cool character that made the game more fun.soreyew wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:50 pm Damn I cant believe a community manager would permanently exorcise people who organized to manipulate the Democratically elected admins of /tg/station somebody send in the CIA for this clear violation of human rights
Edit: remembered a certified classic, posting in memoriam
https://streamable.com/t1cgqs
how did we get here? so much of this shit was just totally unnecessary man. admins are just your every day run-of-the-mill socially awkward mfs like any other player. sometimes they make your day and sometimes they make decisions you don't agree with. they're not some monolithic entity that has some elaborate scheme that they're trying to deploy. there's no grand conspiracy here that required this level of doomposting and plotting. a self fulfilling prophecy if ever i saw one.
will they learn from this or just dig their heels in and convince themselves they were right of everything they were scared of? it's not like it matters at this point anyway.
You're right, this will be my last post ever on the forumsmrmelbert wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:25 amSorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:14 am Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...
ausops wrote:apart from this there is literally nothing more to say other than that this is the first thread in five years to have achieved something.
If you're joshing that's funnyBawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:50 pmYou're right, this will be my last post ever on the forumsmrmelbert wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:25 amSorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:14 am Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
This will be the last time I try gas station chili
I was joshing. The post about me quitting was just supposed to be a joke about trying not to be terminally online. It had very little to do with the thread we're in right now... I can't possibly miss the opportunity to make an "Oh no, what have I become" joke when getting accused of being terminally online. Considering the context though, I see why it was taken as sounding serious (even if I had already backtracked in my prior posts).Armhulen wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 5:25 pmIf you're joshing that's funnyBawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:50 pmYou're right, this will be my last post ever on the forumsmrmelbert wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:25 amSorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:14 am Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...
If you're seriousing, it's kind of a dumb hill to die on. You're really gonna quit posting after 8 years because you came into a drama thread with half the story (the same thing we all have), you said some wacky tabacky shit, got pretty much exactly the response you would expect from immediately starting from a flippant stance about terminally online admins, downward trends, and doom, and then after getting zero pats on the back for bitterposting that means you're quitting forever? Making you tonight's biggest case of angiostrongylus cantonensis.
Just take a chill pill and realize not many hills are worth dying on and especially not this one. I said earlier, if you're a friend of the fallen lads that's fine and you should continue to follow and support them to whatever new horizons they go to and it's completely understandable to be sad or angry about the fact they got the boot but don't take the sanity out of your actions and how you're treating others because of it
ausops wrote:apart from this there is literally nothing more to say other than that this is the first thread in five years to have achieved something.
Thank goodness you're joshing! A FORUM WITHOUT BAWHOPPEN? Is it a forum at all???? And what a wise reflective post. Any implications of rat wormlung are of course null and void because you weren't seriousposting. But man did I pick apart how nutty that would be if you wereBawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:01 pmI was joshing. The post about me quitting was just supposed to be a joke about trying not to be terminally online. It had very little to do with the thread we're in right now... I can't possibly miss the opportunity to make an "Oh no, what have I become" joke when getting accused of being terminally online. Considering the context though, I see why it was taken as sounding serious (even if I had already backtracked in my prior posts).Armhulen wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 5:25 pmIf you're joshing that's funnyBawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:50 pmYou're right, this will be my last post ever on the forumsmrmelbert wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:25 amSorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:14 am Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...
If you're seriousing, it's kind of a dumb hill to die on. You're really gonna quit posting after 8 years because you came into a drama thread with half the story (the same thing we all have), you said some wacky tabacky shit, got pretty much exactly the response you would expect from immediately starting from a flippant stance about terminally online admins, downward trends, and doom, and then after getting zero pats on the back for bitterposting that means you're quitting forever? Making you tonight's biggest case of angiostrongylus cantonensis.
Just take a chill pill and realize not many hills are worth dying on and especially not this one. I said earlier, if you're a friend of the fallen lads that's fine and you should continue to follow and support them to whatever new horizons they go to and it's completely understandable to be sad or angry about the fact they got the boot but don't take the sanity out of your actions and how you're treating others because of it
As for this thread yeah. There are hills to die on, but after given further explanation, this is not one of them. There is not much information to go round, and everyone is pissed because either they know what was done and it's apparently severe, or if you don't know, it at first looked like a case of people getting banned just for having a shit attitude. And both sides hate each other because they see the other as unreasonable. But it is now apparent that there must be something of significance that actually happened more than the latter. So I regret having made my first post here, even if I was only going by the general blacklist reason given at the time.
Lower your tone with me if your tracked play time doesn't look like this:Timonk wrote:You have clearly never seen his dickWesoda25 wrote:Genuinely think they should be blacklisted.
Flatulent wrote:of course you can change religion doing it while islamic however makes you lose your head from happiness
Capsandi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:21 pm This is why i keep an antag token on me at all times so that when my international network of assmad assistant mains whom I look good in comparison to is found out, I can use rule 4 protection to avoid a ban for orchestrating the psychological torment of emptyposters by proxy. It will be like the banhammer will be swung at me and then the token will explode and the shockwave will stop the ban hammer like one of them tank armors.
Reactive Ban ArmorCapsandi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:21 pm This is why i keep an antag token on me at all times so that when my international network of assmad assistant mains whom I look good in comparison to is found out, I can use rule 4 protection to avoid a ban for orchestrating the psychological torment of emptyposters by proxy. It will be like the banhammer will be swung at me and then the token will explode and the shockwave will stop the ban hammer like one of them tank armors.
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