Simple Questions Thread

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:02 pm #120494

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Can you kill an ascended shadowling with a point blank maxcap bomb or are they completely immortal?

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:12 pm #120497

Wyzack wrote:Can you kill an ascended shadowling with a point blank maxcap bomb or are they completely immortal?

Bombs don't even scratch them.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:30 pm #120523

Can anything? Or do they just have full resist damage to all types

Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:09 am

Wyzack wrote:Can anything? Or do they just have full resist damage to all types

BoH bomb

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:25 am #120554

Singularities don't kill them. They're effectively immortal.

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:27 am #120594

PKPenguin321 wrote:
Wyzack wrote:Can anything? Or do they just have full resist damage to all types
BoH bomb

Singularities don't kill them either :^)

Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:23 am

well shit rip

Not-Dorsidarf · Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:04 am

Zilenan91 wrote:Singularities don't kill them. They're effectively immortal.

Unless one of them's a bitch and drops the Instakill Vortex in front of another

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:53 am #120645

ascended shadowlings are kinda like lord british in that anything that can kill them is probably a bug

Cheimon · Post by **Cheimon** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:19 am #120651

They die if they walk into a supermatter shard.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:18 pm #120684

It is settled then. To kill an ascended shadowing you need to make a supermatter shard atmos trap

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:23 am #120861

i always hear about it but i've never found where the "kill point" for power drains is, that fabled one wire/wire line that you can plop a drain on to literally disable the whole station. im too lazy to figure out/study the map in byond itself, so does anyone here know the location/s?

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:15 am #120883

Last I looked the entire station is on the same grid, so you can plonk the sink anywhere except for the solars, obviously not every location is as well hidden

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:16 am #120900

The powersink is coded to search the powergrid it is connected to and drain any APC and SMES it finds of power. Almost the entire station is connected to the main powergrid. Only exceptions are the solars and the engine, which power SMESes that then send their power into the main grid.

Incidentally, using SMESes like that is also the only way you can create one-way power lines and separate parts of the grid from other parts without cutting the power flow to them.

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:19 pm #120976

how do i make maxcaps? im trying to learn toxins but i cant seem to make anything other than fucking toot bombs.

this is what i've been doing:
-3 canisters with 66% plasma 33% oxygen
-burn all three in the burn chamber
-fill an oxygen tank with 66% plasma 33% oxygen
-fill plasma tank with the superheated gas

and for that matter, i cant seem to attach shit to the bombs either, arent you supposed to be able to screwdriver shit to make it attachable?

TechnoAlchemist · Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:51 pm

Deitus wrote:how do i make maxcaps? im trying to learn toxins but i cant seem to make anything other than fucking toot bombs.

this is what i've been doing:
-3 canisters with 66% plasma 33% oxygen
-burn all three in the burn chamber
-fill an oxygen tank with 66% plasma 33% oxygen
-fill plasma tank with the superheated gas

and for that matter, i cant seem to attach shit to the bombs either, arent you supposed to be able to screwdriver shit to make it attachable?

The oxygen tank should only have cooled oxygen in it( you can use the cooler in the testing lab, aim for around -140 degrees for a good volume of gas)

The plasma tank and oxygen tank should be emptied beforehand using scrubbers or air filters.

Fill the plasma tank with 200kpa raw plasma, then fill the rest with superheated gas

linelynnline · Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:14 pm

Is there a way to deconstruct intercoms and construct them elsewhere or make some sort of radio. I'm trying to figure out how to make a replacement AI core in the event of the AI sat getting bombed.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:26 pm #121321

Great place for powersinks is in arrivals maint above prime tool storage, or electrical maint assuming somebody didn't make a camera there.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:31 am #121401

linelynnline wrote:Is there a way to deconstruct intercoms and construct them elsewhere or make some sort of radio. I'm trying to figure out how to make a replacement AI core in the event of the AI sat getting bombed.

Nope.

Intercoms arent necessary though, the AI has a builtin headset.

Not-Dorsidarf · Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am

Miauw wrote:
linelynnline wrote:Is there a way to deconstruct intercoms and construct them elsewhere or make some sort of radio. I'm trying to figure out how to make a replacement AI core in the event of the AI sat getting bombed.
Nope.

Intercoms arent necessary though, the AI has a builtin headset.

They ae for the downed radio event, actually. Just build your replacement AI core somewhere one already exists, or give it a SBR if its not meant to do anything sneaky.

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:38 am #123187

In virology, what's the point of longevity? Temporary buffs are nice, but a disease curing itself seems kind of counter-productive, especially since the infected can't catch it again.

Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:33 am

Xhuis wrote:In virology, what's the point of longevity? Temporary buffs are nice, but a disease curing itself seems kind of counter-productive, especially since the infected can't catch it again.

i figure it was intended to be used with DNA Aide to give temporary superpowers (or for death viruses since if it kills you fast enough it wont matter if it cures itself because you're dead)

newfren · Post by **newfren** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:42 am #123216

The entire point seems to be just buffing dangerous diseases so you can include more KILL THINGS FAST symptoms without the cure just being salt.

It's the sort of thing that's only really useful if you also release other diseases without it so that you can't just brute/burn patch your way through the length of the disease.

To be honest it's kind of a terrible symptom, especially when Eternal Youth exists which buffs shit basically the same amount except for transmissibility, which you're going to use sneezing to force airbourne anyway so who cares.

Post by **lumipharon** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:00 am #123223

Xhuis wrote:In virology, what's the point of longevity? Temporary buffs are nice, but a disease curing itself seems kind of counter-productive, especially since the infected can't catch it again.

When you release like 30 viruses (incrementally) people will just spread them around and suffer horribly from 50 different forms of rape.
Still pretty pointless though since you can do the same without it.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:14 am #123226

Honestly /tg/s viro doesn't do killing very well, but what it does amazingly is crippling people. Blindness, deafness, random genetic defects, and randomly bursting into flame is probably the most robust virus you can get outside of admin viruses.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:14 am #123227

Honestly /tg/s viro doesn't do killing very well, but what it does amazingly is crippling people. Blindness, deafness, random genetic defects, and randomly bursting into flame is probably the most robust virus you can get outside of admin viruses.

DeutscherMajor · Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:58 pm

I am new at playing with athmos. What can i do with this canister?

Results of analysis of the canister.
Pressure: 632422 kPa
Nitrogen: 0 %
Oxygen: 0 %
CO2: 100 %
Plasma: 0 %
Temperature: 6572 °C

Or this one:

Pressure: 501249 kPa
Nitrogen: 0 %
Oxygen: 0 %
CO2: 100 %
Plasma: 0 %
Temperature: 10609 °C

TheNightingale · Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:28 pm

They're pure CO2. You could release them into a room and do a really bad job of suffocating people, I guess, or use the canisters as roadblocks and open them to push people around. They're very hot CO2, though, so if you're into trapping someone in a room and burning-slash-suffocating them alive, go for it. Remember, you need oxygen for a fire to work, but pure hot CO2 will burn (but not ignite) them anyway.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:32 pm #123648

A can that hot will completely destroy anybody on the escape shuttle, or the hallway full of people if you weld the airlocks shut. It'd make an area completely inhabitable for a long time barring a hull breach.

DeutscherMajor · Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:48 pm

So only traitorous uses?

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:52 pm #123670

you could use it to gas the liggers, as a borg this would be legit even as a non-antag provided the liggers have been harmful to humans and you deploy the can in such a way that would definitely avoid human harm.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:23 pm #123677

So in other words, yes only traitorous uses.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:42 pm #123684

Borgs aren't traitors, they're your mechanical frenemy thats just waiting for an opportunity to kill you.

ShadowDimentio · Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:15 pm

Be nice to the machines and they may afford you mercy in their mechanical uprising.

Super Aggro Crag · Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:55 am

how do you recharge a defribulator

Cheimon · Post by **Cheimon** » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:02 am #123839

Super Aggro Crag wrote:how do you recharge a defribulator

Screwdriver on the defib to get the power cell out.

Shove the power cell in one of the cell chargers, they're on tables in medbay.

When it's charged, shove it back in. Don't worry about doing the screws up, it just works.

Super Aggro Crag · Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:28 am

thanks

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:14 am #123918

ShadowDimentio wrote:Be nice to the machines and they may afford you mercy in their mechanical uprising.

the roboticists are usualy the last against the wall.

Not-Dorsidarf · Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:04 pm

tuypo1 wrote:
ShadowDimentio wrote:Be nice to the machines and they may afford you mercy in their mechanical uprising.
the roboticists are usualy the last against the wall.

I once spent an entire round borging corpses the secborg brought me before the captain burst in covered in blood firing the EMP rifle and was like "WTF are you doing we thought there was an autoborger"

Turns out I'd left my headset in the hallway and not noticed the very active malf round

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:12 pm #124385

my fucking sides

AnonymousNow · Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:23 pm

Miauw wrote:my fucking sides

newfren · Post by **newfren** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:31 pm #125745

How the fuck do you actually get kudzu. I just ran through like 7 large beakers of mutagen mutating fucking weeds for no result is there like... a secret.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:13 pm #125811

i think feeding them sugar helps. Or maybe that is giant spiders, i dont remember

EndgamerAzari · Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:38 pm

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:
tuypo1 wrote:
ShadowDimentio wrote:Be nice to the machines and they may afford you mercy in their mechanical uprising.
the roboticists are usualy the last against the wall.
I once spent an entire round borging corpses the secborg brought me before the captain burst in covered in blood firing the EMP rifle and was like "WTF are you doing we thought there was an autoborger"

Turns out I'd left my headset in the hallway and not noticed the very active malf round

Holy shit, that's the most hilariously myopic thing I've ever heard. It's like a Dilbert comic.

Post by **lumipharon** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:21 pm #125886

newfren wrote:How the fuck do you actually get kudzu. I just ran through like 7 large beakers of mutagen mutating fucking weeds for no result is there like... a secret.

kudzu is a week not a regular plant - you gotta get weeds with sugar spam, then you can get kudzu. (But please don't, fuck kudzu)

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:48 pm #125895

Kudzu is great. Nobody ever uses it because it's so hard to get it, but if you can mutate it to be aggressive spreading and have decent potency, you just win SS13.

Post by **lumipharon** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:58 pm #125901

The problem is that it ISN'T hard to get.

A certain cuck that will remain unnamed, used to do it EVERY FUCKING ROUND on basil. It takes seriously 10 mintes from round start (as a non botanist at that) to get 50 seeds and just fuck the entire station.
It's seriously only matched in station fucking power by 6 max cap bombs and the singulo.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:03 pm #125905

Daisy right? Yeah I heard about her. I think the reason it's so bad on basil is because of the big map and low server pop. On something like sybil, it gets discovered instantly because there are so many people constantly moving around, while on basil it can grow for up to 5 or 10 minutes with nobody seeing it at all, making it infinitely worse than before due to the random mutations and area coverage in general.

newfren · Post by **newfren** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:56 am #126058

lumipharon wrote:
newfren wrote:How the fuck do you actually get kudzu. I just ran through like 7 large beakers of mutagen mutating fucking weeds for no result is there like... a secret.
kudzu is a week not a regular plant - you gotta get weeds with sugar spam, then you can get kudzu. (But please don't, fuck kudzu)

Yeah I was mutating empty trays that were overgrown with weeds and I kept getting death nettles and destroying angels. Shitty RNG I guess.

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:04 pm #127242

Do the various organs that you can extract from Xenos via surgery actually do anything, or are they just there for flavor?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:23 pm

if you put them into a human then you can get xeno powers like acid spit and other things