Compilation of policy discussion rulings
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Compilation of policy discussion rulings
I'm making a compilation of policy discussion rulings. The format is usually as follows:
[Question about policy/action in question]: [Context if needed] [Ruling which also has link to the post made by the headmin]
It would probably be linked in the rules page so it can be referenced in ban appeals etc
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Headmin_Rulings
Once I've typed up every ruling in that format, I'll go through and sort them. Silicon/Drone ones are the main things I want to sort out, then OOC conduct, escalation rules, special rules (vampire policy), miscellaneous. Whatever I can think of to make it easier for players to look through it to find answers to policy questions they may have, this will also hopefully reduce duplicate policy discussions since you can reference the ones with a clear ruling on the wiki page.
[Question about policy/action in question]: [Context if needed] [Ruling which also has link to the post made by the headmin]
It would probably be linked in the rules page so it can be referenced in ban appeals etc
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Headmin_Rulings
Once I've typed up every ruling in that format, I'll go through and sort them. Silicon/Drone ones are the main things I want to sort out, then OOC conduct, escalation rules, special rules (vampire policy), miscellaneous. Whatever I can think of to make it easier for players to look through it to find answers to policy questions they may have, this will also hopefully reduce duplicate policy discussions since you can reference the ones with a clear ruling on the wiki page.
Last edited by BeeSting12 on Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
Is this going to be a wiki article? We already have one of these in the admin forums but no one else can see it so yeah
edit: article was not linked when i posted
edit: article was not linked when i posted
Last edited by Qbopper on Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
Yes, it's going to be a wiki article. I linked it near the bottom. The one we have, I believe only shows headmin rulings that are relevant to admins only for the most part. Reading it now, the only post I see that's relevant to players is admin event roles validity and pile on ick ock which is basically telling us if those two things are bannable. This page is meant moreso for the players and would be useful when reading a ban appeal for quick reference to policy decisions by headmins. Or if they have a specific policy question but don't feel like scrolling through eight pages of questions, many of them duplicates/dumb questions/unenforceable.
Things that will not be included:
Duplicates- The most recent ruling will be put down.
Ones with no clear/obvious ruling and are probably unenforceable. Such as literally anything about escalation.
Dumb Questions- Stuff spawned of salt or to meme. Such as Sally didn't look at Annes box...
Things that will not be included:
Duplicates- The most recent ruling will be put down.
Ones with no clear/obvious ruling and are probably unenforceable. Such as literally anything about escalation.
Dumb Questions- Stuff spawned of salt or to meme. Such as Sally didn't look at Annes box...
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
Ok, I'll add the name of each headmin that made the ruling.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
A page like this used to exist. Last time, the page eventually stopped getting updated and then even worse, became out of date, showing rulings that were changed.
Hopefully this one fairs better
Hopefully this one fairs better
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
BeeSting12 wrote:I'm making a compilation of policy discussion rulings. The format is usually as follows:
[Question about policy/action in question]: [Context if needed] [Ruling which also has link to the post made by the headmin]
It would probably be linked in the rules page so it can be referenced in ban appeals etc
https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Headmin_Rulings
Once I've typed up every ruling in that format, I'll go through and sort them. Silicon/Drone ones are the main things I want to sort out, then OOC conduct, escalation rules, special rules (vampire policy), miscellaneous. Whatever I can think of to make it easier for players to look through it to find answers to policy questions they may have, this will also hopefully reduce duplicate policy discussions since you can reference the ones with a clear ruling on the wiki page.
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Looks great so far.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
Woops, didn't realize you already had one. Ah well. As for what NikNakFlak said, I'll be updating this for the foreseeable future. Basically as long as I can actively admin, I can do this with little difficulty, especially after I'm done catalogging the already made policy discussions.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
Special thanks to Repukan for sending me a list of all the silicon policy threads so I can get those done. Also thanks to Qbopper and Atlanta for formatting it. I'm absolute shit at formatting in anything besides google docs, microsoft word, or libre office.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
All the silicon policy threads have been catalogged with the exception of a few discussion threads, duplicates, and threads made out of salt such as basically every thread by sirnat and iamgoofball.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=5558
Admin Rule 0 backed by headmin override by deadlock broken.
MSO hornygranny 2.1 to unban vs Lollerderby headmin.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 34&t=10255
Metagrudging latejoin harassment sec harassment and OOC/ahelp kill/banbaiting.
Ban removed despite PKP's ruling.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 34&t=11549
Repeated nudity.
Admin Rule 0 backed by headmin override by deadlock broken.
MSO hornygranny 2.1 to unban vs Lollerderby headmin.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 34&t=10255
Metagrudging latejoin harassment sec harassment and OOC/ahelp kill/banbaiting.
Ban removed despite PKP's ruling.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 34&t=11549
Repeated nudity.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
these have absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand, they're ban appeals not policy subforum threads
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
>jmad trying to spin his ban appeals to put headmins in a bad light while vilifying the people who banned him
how could we have expe- oh wait....
how could we have expe- oh wait....
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
new rulings new precedentsthot_slayer wrote:these have absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand, they're ban appeals not policy subforum threads
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
NoJ_Madison wrote:new rulings new precedentsthot_slayer wrote:these have absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand, they're ban appeals not policy subforum threads
While not necessarily our main rule list, the An0n3 amendment specifically states that saying things like
is not the same as citing the rules"This happened to me once and I didn't get banned for it" or the reverse "This happened to me once and I got banned for it."
That and common sense/awareness of context
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
Rulings are referenced, have been used to back or weaken bans.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
call it "admin rulings" instead of "headmin rulings"
there's a thing from feem in there and he was not a headmin at the time of that post
there's a thing from feem in there and he was not a headmin at the time of that post
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
they're not in policy discussion you fuckstick, they don't countJ_Madison wrote:Rulings are referenced, have been used to back or weaken bans.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
get the headmins to write up a fucking constitution and then make an admin policy changelog/list ingame gaaah.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
I'll write the sec policy section of this over the course of this week and hopefully have everything else down by the end of next week. At very latest, it will be Christmas when I'm done with this.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
I meant Christmas of this year...BeeSting12 wrote:At very latest, it will be Christmas when I'm done with this.
Maybe next year. It depends. I'm working on this again though, with the aim to put all of sec policy up there.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
I converted the page to use tables, since that makes things a little more readable.
EDIT: Can we link to this page from the Rules page?
EDIT: Can we link to this page from the Rules page?
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
As long as I copy pate rule zero to the top of the page in size seventy two font
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
There is no changelog for server config either, you might be asking for too much.FrozenGuy5 wrote:get the headmins to write up a fucking constitution and then make an admin policy changelog/list ingame gaaah.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
So are these enforced with the rules? I have definitely been bwoinked for at least one thing this list says is fine.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
There probably needs to be a discussion about this with the admin/headmin team. Right now we're just focused on documenting them.NoxVS wrote:So are these enforced with the rules? I have definitely been bwoinked for at least one thing this list says is fine.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
Link the specific ruling because we don't know the 70 rulings of our heads especially the more esoteric ones.NoxVS wrote:So are these enforced with the rules? I have definitely been bwoinked for at least one thing this list says is fine.
Keep in mind rule 0 and 1 do still apply if you do things in excess.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
There's not much I can do if I can't edit it.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
Fair point, an oversight of mine; reverted.
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Re: Compilation of policy discussion rulings
Yet another failed gambit for sysop on the wiki. *shakes fist*
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