Planetary Station """""design""""" document

Discussing the mapping/spriting/coding efforts involved in creating a version of SS13 that takes place on a planet surface. Will be finished Soon(TM)

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Re: Planetary Station """""design""""" document

Postby peoplearestrange » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:23 pm #270537

Remie Richards wrote:It's the NECROpolis, scale it with the amount of dead.
This encourages rescuing people and not dying like a moron, you're actively making it hungrier.

Nice idea. But is there a way for the code to easily pick the difference between observers (from round start or just recently joined) and people who are dead/have the chance to be revived?

Otherwise late joins/admins will kinda tip the balance unfairly so to speak.

Also I guess it would have to be related to minds rather than "dead" carbon/humans. Or maybe not, maybe you could get interesting tators making bodies in genetics and killing them to make more "dead"?

We'd also have to make sure admins VVing etc for events or just fuckery doesnt somehow screw up the counting method (say people testing in thunderdome etc)
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Re: Planetary Station """""design""""" document

Postby Remie Richards » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:27 pm #270546

I would count all mobs with stat = DEAD, observers/ghosts don't have stat, so it'll be their bodies (which only real ghosts have) that are counted.
Maybe include animals, maybe not (probably yes, because it hungers.)

and yes, we can just check if the mobs are dead on a "valid" level (essentially just a not-centcomm level)
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Postby confused rock » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:03 pm #270608

Something about the idea of the crew having a common goal always doesnt sit right with me, I dont see the point, its like if we made fire extinguishers spawn in emergency boxes and have them heal you when you put out fires rather than them being in wall storages, as bad as that comparison is.
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Postby onleavedontatme » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:06 pm #270609

confused rock wrote:Something about the idea of the crew having a common goal always doesnt sit right with me, I dont see the point, its like if we made fire extinguishers spawn in emergency boxes and have them heal you when you put out fires rather than them being in wall storages, as bad as that comparison is.


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Postby Armhulen » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:07 pm #270610

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Postby Wyzack » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:14 pm #270612

What could he possibly have meant by this
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Postby TheColdTurtle » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:22 pm #270619

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Postby danno » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:08 pm #270642

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Postby XDTM » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:21 pm #270700

His point is that we're rewarding players for something they should be doing anyway, although i don't really see how having a goal would be that, since the crew wasn't going to do it at all without a reward.
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Postby Xhuis » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:16 pm #270728

See, there's this thing called incentives...
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Re: Planetary Station """""design""""" document

Postby Haevacht » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:55 pm #270766

Remie Richards wrote:I would count all mobs with stat = DEAD, observers/ghosts don't have stat, so it'll be their bodies (which only real ghosts have) that are counted.
Maybe include animals, maybe not (probably yes, because it hungers.)

and yes, we can just check if the mobs are dead on a "valid" level (essentially just a not-centcomm level)

Include animals, have animal products for armouring and possibly fancy other rewards. Balance animal murder with necro hunger as a thing.

Would slimes count because xenobio.
Traitors can just go hunt animals to increase the risk, while being at risk from said animals.
Traitor geneticists can humanise then murder monkeys to increase hunger.
Murderboners get met with an army of hostile necropolis shits, who you can't really murderbone as well as humans, so traitor gets screwed.

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Postby PKPenguin321 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:04 pm #270770

ok so about that map way back when i suggested basically this same thing except as just a map instead of a meme overhaul i said we should do the station as a "compound" instead of a station, IE no real hallways just walk outdoors to the next building, departments are their own buildings (genetics is attached to medical is attached to chemistry etc), maybe have paths with wires that go alongside them and a perimeter fence around the whole thing

would it be cooler to do this or just a regular station but with different stuff outside
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Postby onleavedontatme » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:39 pm #270798

I think a compound with maint being the underground tunnels on the next z level would be cool, and was what I was aiming for.

However that might end up feeling too different for something that people are already saying is too different, so I guess we'll see.

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Postby PKPenguin321 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:24 am #270834

i still believe in planet station existing side by side with space station so i think its ok to make it different, players will get their regular station fix next mapchange
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Postby confused rock » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:58 am #270902

No no man you got it all wrong man xdtm like Im not good at explaining it to myself either so you are also sort of right but I mean like imagine if the warden job was just replaced with an snpc speaking of warden you know thzt feeel when you are warden and all sec is fucking stupid so you cant stop yourself from leaving brig to save lives yourself that there is how I feel about the crashed ship idea I mean thats what itd be like every round its like if ttt took place on the sinking titanic is what I feel we are moving toward
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Postby Wyzack » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:04 am #270904

Rock did you hit your head, i am seriously concerned what the fuck
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Postby TheColdTurtle » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:05 am #270905

Litterally what the fuck
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Postby Aloraydrel » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:05 am #270906

Should I call 911?

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Postby ShadowDimentio » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:08 am #270908

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Postby Quanti » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:13 am #270909

confused rock wrote:No no man you got it all wrong man xdtm like Im not good at explaining it to myself either so you are also sort of right but I mean like imagine if the warden job was just replaced with an snpc speaking of warden you know thzt feeel when you are warden and all sec is fucking stupid so you cant stop yourself from leaving brig to save lives yourself that there is how I feel about the crashed ship idea I mean thats what itd be like every round its like if ttt took place on the sinking titanic is what I feel we are moving toward

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Postby Luke Cox » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:16 am #270910

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Postby Haevacht » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:36 am #270925

[2:32 PM] Capital H: he feels there's too much pressure and obligation to work for the good of the statioin whereas fucking off has no punishment
[2:32 PM] Capital H: and the reward of the shuttle is unsatisfying
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Postby Qbopper » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:11 pm #271033

confused rock wrote:No no man you got it all wrong man xdtm like Im not good at explaining it to myself either so you are also sort of right but I mean like imagine if the warden job was just replaced with an snpc speaking of warden you know thzt feeel when you are warden and all sec is fucking stupid so you cant stop yourself from leaving brig to save lives yourself that there is how I feel about the crashed ship idea I mean thats what itd be like every round its like if ttt took place on the sinking titanic is what I feel we are moving toward


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Postby Steelpoint » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:27 pm #271046

confused rock wrote:No no man you got it all wrong man xdtm like Im not good at explaining it to myself either so you are also sort of right but I mean like imagine if the warden job was just replaced with an snpc speaking of warden you know thzt feeel when you are warden and all sec is fucking stupid so you cant stop yourself from leaving brig to save lives yourself that there is how I feel about the crashed ship idea I mean thats what itd be like every round its like if ttt took place on the sinking titanic is what I feel we are moving toward


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You have it all wrong xdtm, I understand I'm not very good at explaining my thoughts, even I have a hard time following.

Imagine if the Warden's job was just replaced with a NPC. Speaking of the Warden, I feel that this crashed ship idea will be akin to the Warden realising Security is so bad at their job that you feel compelled to leave the brig and save lives yourself.

That's what I think every round will be like, akin to if you were playing a role on the Titanic, you know the ship is sinking but you can't stand everyone else acting stupid or not working as efficiently as possible.
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Postby confused rock » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:29 pm #271058

Hey ho steelio you dont understand shiit alright lad imagine if you were thirsty so you tried to drink salt water and halfway through you realised it was salt water but you cant just leave that salt water sitting there if the glass was empty in thd first place you couldve drank your own piss of somethin
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Postby TheColdTurtle » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:35 pm #271062

Rock have you ever drank salt water?
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Postby Steelpoint » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:36 pm #271063

Ok I admit I'm wrong. What you said makes no sense whatsoever.
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Postby D&B » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:38 pm #271074

And I thought Danno didn't make sense
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Postby Wyzack » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:52 pm #271102

Rock please tell me this is some elaborate parody and your mental capacity has not actually degraded to this state
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Postby confused rock » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:56 pm #271123

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Postby peoplearestrange » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:40 pm #271134

Okkkkkkk Back on topic...
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Re: Planetary Station """""design""""" document

Postby PKPenguin321 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:19 am #271274

what if the corruption is spreading because the planet dont like the space men stealing all they plasma
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Postby onleavedontatme » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:27 am #271281

the corruption is a metaphor for how magic based features are spreading like a cancer and destroying our sci fi setting

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Postby Xhuis » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:30 am #271285

but kor you made the necropolis magic
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Re: Planetary Station """""design""""" document

Postby PKPenguin321 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:36 am #271290

Kor wrote:the corruption is a metaphor for how magic based features are spreading like a cancer and destroying our sci fi setting

no that the natural jungles reaction to getting its plasma taked
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
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Re: Planetary Station """""design""""" document

Postby Qbopper » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:38 pm #271590

PKPenguin321 wrote:
Kor wrote:the corruption is a metaphor for how magic based features are spreading like a cancer and destroying our sci fi setting

no that the natural jungles reaction to getting its plasma taked


"hi i take purple fire gas that kills you and bring it to space where it will ironically be used to light me on fire"
"no"
"fuck"
Limey wrote:its too late.

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Re: Planetary Station """""design""""" document

Postby tacolizard » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:39 pm #272049

Kevinz said I should help out on this. It seems like it would be a lot of fun to work on especially considering balance won't be considered sacred, so we could experiment with a lot of stuff.

I think I would be best at spriting, but I have also done some mapping work for Pubbystation so I could do mapping too. I could do coding, but I still haven't gotten totally over BYOND's learning curve.

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Re: Planetary Station """""design""""" document

Postby Gun Hog » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:15 pm #272176

Welp, sign me up too then I guess. Either I hop on this bus or be crushed under its monster truck tires. I will be contributing code, of course.

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