You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = disconnect
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You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = disconnect
what
why
Is this really necessary? Or is this an overcorrection due to the influx of summer players? Why is this necessary?
why
Is this really necessary? Or is this an overcorrection due to the influx of summer players? Why is this necessary?
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
I figure that the admins are becoming more aggressive about population control, and wish to be active in evening out the player counts. Sybil constantly gets 80 whereas Basil putters along at less than 20. This results in one server being an overcrowded, laggy mess while Basil has no rounds other than traitor, traitorchan, and changeling. Inactives add to the player count, possibly keeping people from joining if population is close to the cap.
I am guessing that admins just want to even things out.
I am guessing that admins just want to even things out.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
I RESENT THAT ACCUSATION!Gun Hog wrote:Basil has no rounds other than traitor, traitorchan, and changeling.
We have extended too.
- Saegrimr
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
10 seems a bit much, not uncommon to be dead for that long and to just alt-tab until the round ends.
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- hanshansenhansson
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Remove it for dead people. This is just silly, missed nearly all round-starts today because I am unrobust and tend to surf the net afterwards instead of salting in chat.
- Jeb
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
#bringbacksos2015
- MisterPerson
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
If you dislike the server configuration, PM the host. This isn't a code issue though
I code for the code project and moderate the code sections of the forums.
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Feedback is dumb and it doesn't matter
- Cheridan
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
There isn't really a Server Feedback forum or anything, this board is fine for people to voice their concerns.MisterPerson wrote:If you dislike the server configuration, PM the host. This isn't a code issue though
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
This isn't just for players also, Even admins get kicked.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
So I get kicked from being a player for ten minutes of inactivity, how long does it takes admins? because according to the precedent of HG it should take them a couple of months right?
I'm so funny.
But seriously, I see no issue here, You're either invested in the round or you aren't.
Though I believe ahelps bwoink right? if so, I can see a need for this to be removed from admins doing other things but waiting and being available in the background should an ahelp come through.
I'm so funny.
But seriously, I see no issue here, You're either invested in the round or you aren't.
Though I believe ahelps bwoink right? if so, I can see a need for this to be removed from admins doing other things but waiting and being available in the background should an ahelp come through.
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- Saegrimr
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Last I checked admins don't count towards the population limit, so kicking them seems kind of pointless anyway.
tedward1337 wrote:Sae is like the racist grandad who everyone laughs at for being racist, but deep down we all know he's right.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
They don't count towards the soft limits, but they count towards the hard limits.Saegrimr wrote:Last I checked admins don't count towards the population limit, so kicking them seems kind of pointless anyway.
The server load doesn't differentiate between Admin or not, a connection is a connection.
Granted, Observers don't get kicked:
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/datum/subsystem/server_maint/fire()
//handle kicking inactive players
if(config.kick_inactive > 0)
for(var/client/C in clients)
if(C.is_afk(INACTIVITY_KICK))
if(!istype(C.mob, /mob/dead))
log_access("AFK: [key_name(C)]")
C << "<span class='danger'>You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes and have been disconnected.</span>"
del(C)
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- Akkryls
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Question. Before I totally overreact and call this out as the shitty idea this is.
Are all ghosts immune to kicking, or just admin ghosts?
Are all ghosts immune to kicking, or just admin ghosts?
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
All ghosts.Akkryls wrote:Question. Before I totally overreact and call this out as the shitty idea this is.
Are all ghosts immune to kicking, or just admin ghosts?
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- MrStonedOne
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
I put this in place because its shit to have a pop cap and allow afk people to use up slots.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
It is on regardless of pop. I've been kicked for idling on sibyl with 20 or so people, it's pretty dumb,.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Why not, like, you know, only count playing players as part of the player cap?MrStonedOne wrote:I put this in place because its shit to have a pop cap and allow afk people to use up slots.
Seriously, if you're dead for the round it's terrible to kick people who don't have the time, patience, or care to watch (believe me, 99% of the time I'm eaten by a ling in a ling round I'm not in the mood to watch a subtle lingstation 13 for 2 hours), instead of just having to listen for that familiar menu music. It means that now you have to be actively watching, even if absolutely fucknothing is happening / everyone is dead and so forth if you want to participate at roundstart the following round. It's punishing people who die in a totally backwards way, aside from actually being removed from the round.
It'll drive numbers down as well, which really, is the last thing this server needs, given that rounds are unchaotic, tepid, and boring most of the time these days.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Will agree, this is stupid.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Remove afk kick
- Akkryls
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
At least there's that, so this isn't a monumentally retarded idea.Remie Richards wrote:All ghosts.Akkryls wrote:Question. Before I totally overreact and call this out as the shitty idea this is.
Are all ghosts immune to kicking, or just admin ghosts?
So yeah, where did that whole "Hands off" approach to running the server go?MrStonedOne wrote:I put this in place because its shit to have a pop cap and allow afk people to use up slots.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Let me get this straight, it kicks live players but not ghosts. So it stops people from taking a slot and not using it. If you want to hear when the round ends can't you just ghost/kill yourself?
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
To be fair Akkryls, MSO runs the servers, the actual server boxes are maintained by him (Sysadmin wise, the boxes are at the Host)Akkryls wrote:So yeah, where did that whole "Hands off" approach to running the server go?MrStonedOne wrote:I put this in place because its shit to have a pop cap and allow afk people to use up slots.
The cap was first enabled this time around due to crippling lag caused by 90 players.
Do you want a playable game with a pop cap, or an unplayable game with nigh-infinite player slots?
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
I'm not sure why people mind. If you're AFK for 10 minutes, you're clearly busy doing other things.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Or you died a tragic death and are tabbed out of the game waiting for the round to end?Amnestik wrote:I'm not sure why people mind. If you're AFK for 10 minutes, you're clearly busy doing other things.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
But ghosts do not get kicked
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Caleb Robinson laughs.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Even though ghosts aren't kicked, why should inactive observers hold a place that new joiners might want?Jeb wrote:Or you died a tragic death and are tabbed out of the game waiting for the round to end?Amnestik wrote:I'm not sure why people mind. If you're AFK for 10 minutes, you're clearly busy doing other things.
- MrStonedOne
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Amnestik wrote:Even though ghosts aren't kicked, why should inactive observers hold a place that new joiners might want?Jeb wrote:Or you died a tragic death and are tabbed out of the game waiting for the round to end?Amnestik wrote:I'm not sure why people mind. If you're AFK for 10 minutes, you're clearly busy doing other things.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Nope! I've been kicked after 10 minutes even as an observer.Remie Richards wrote:They don't count towards the soft limits, but they count towards the hard limits.Saegrimr wrote:Last I checked admins don't count towards the population limit, so kicking them seems kind of pointless anyway.
The server load doesn't differentiate between Admin or not, a connection is a connection.
Granted, Observers don't get kicked:
So if you're an admin who needs to stay connected, it's best to aghost while afk.Code: Select all
/datum/subsystem/server_maint/fire() //handle kicking inactive players if(config.kick_inactive > 0) for(var/client/C in clients) if(C.is_afk(INACTIVITY_KICK)) if(!istype(C.mob, /mob/dead)) log_access("AFK: [key_name(C)]") C << "<span class='danger'>You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes and have been disconnected.</span>" del(C)
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
if(!istype(C.mob, /mob/dead))palpatine213 wrote:Nope! I've been kicked after 10 minutes even as an observer.Remie Richards wrote:if(!istype(C.mob, /mob/dead))
an observer is /mob/dead/observer.
Ergo you were probably pulled into a mob by one of the over-aggressive "I NEED A GHOST NOW" antags, and then kicked by it for being AFK, since you still accumulate "AFK Points" while a ghost, you just won't be penalised for them.
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- Saegrimr
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Hahaha holy shit so the instant an alien larva pops out, someone that was alt-tabbed and just listening for the round end gets kicked.Remie Richards wrote:since you still accumulate "AFK Points" while a ghost, you just won't be penalised for them.
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- Akkryls
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
I've been playing Spessmen for about 4~ years ish. So whilst I haven't been around for as long as some people, I've still been here a while.Remie Richards wrote:To be fair Akkryls, MSO runs the servers, the actual server boxes are maintained by him (Sysadmin wise, the boxes are at the Host)Akkryls wrote:So yeah, where did that whole "Hands off" approach to running the server go?MrStonedOne wrote:I put this in place because its shit to have a pop cap and allow afk people to use up slots.
The cap was first enabled this time around due to crippling lag caused by 90 players.
Do you want a playable game with a pop cap, or an unplayable game with nigh-infinite player slots?
First time we've apparently needed a pop cap; so I guess my (Probably fairly aggressive) train of thought is that whatever is causing the lag should be removed (Fastmos / Spider mobs / Whatever is causing it now) rather than putting in server configs that don't really do a huge amount to help the lag but just detract from quality of life on the server.
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
We're not fully aware of what's causing the crippling 90 player lag, since about 6 months ago we were celebrating 100+ players no lag.Akkryls wrote:I've been playing Spessmen for about 4~ years ish. So whilst I haven't been around for as long as some people, I've still been here a while.Remie Richards wrote:To be fair Akkryls, MSO runs the servers, the actual server boxes are maintained by him (Sysadmin wise, the boxes are at the Host)Akkryls wrote:So yeah, where did that whole "Hands off" approach to running the server go?MrStonedOne wrote:I put this in place because its shit to have a pop cap and allow afk people to use up slots.
The cap was first enabled this time around due to crippling lag caused by 90 players.
Do you want a playable game with a pop cap, or an unplayable game with nigh-infinite player slots?
First time we've apparently needed a pop cap; so I guess my (Probably fairly aggressive) train of thought is that whatever is causing the lag should be removed (Fastmos / Spider mobs / Whatever is causing it now) rather than putting in server configs that don't really do a huge amount to help the lag but just detract from quality of life on the server.
This is not a permanent solution, it is an interim one.
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- Akkryls
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Fair enough then.Remie Richards wrote: We're not fully aware of what's causing the crippling 90 player lag, since about 6 months ago we were celebrating 100+ players no lag.
This is not a permanent solution, it is an interim one.
That's basically what I was getting at that we did use to have 100+ players without anything even close to resembling the server crushing lag that we do at the moment.
It would be nice if the AFK kick thing could be made a bit more lenient in the mean time though, in regards to the AFK points thing instant kicking ghosts the moment something drags them into the round.
- Wyzack
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Re: You have been inactive for more than 10 minutes = discon
Recently been having loads of lag on basil, even with 17 players
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Caleb Robinson laughs.
Arthur Thomson catches fire!
tusterman11 wrote:Can you stop lying? I just asked you and you are was a piece of shiit on me!!!
EngamerAzari's real number one fangirl <3Kor wrote:I wish Wyzack was still an admin.
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