Nerf the HoS's armor
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Nerf the HoS's armor
Right now, the HoS has literally more health than any mech other than a Durand. This is due to the RETARDED amount of armor he has - the HoS can survive well over 50 harmbaton hits and half a laser gun emptied into him, screaming for help to sec all the while. I get that the HoS is often the only member of security, but he should not have more health than a mech for any reason. It makes no sense physics-wise that he has this much armor: the syndicate spacesuits provide less armor than the HoS's gear and spacesuits are thick enough to ward off space radiation and vacuum. The armor value needs a nerf to roughly half of what it currently, so that the HoS is stronger than the average sec officer but not a human mech with absolutely none of the downsides of being a mech.
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Re: Nerf the HoS's armor
omfg i couldnt ebow esword the hos pls nerf ;(
this belongs in feedback
this belongs in feedback
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For reference:
The moral of the above information? Don't use brute damaging weapon when trying to kill Security personal let alone the HoS.
I think the HoS armour is fine as it stands, the only area it could stand to be fixed is the bad looking HoS hat sprite and maybe the greatcoat.
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I think the HoS armour is fine as it stands, the only area it could stand to be fixed is the bad looking HoS hat sprite and maybe the greatcoat.
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Re: Nerf the HoS's armor
Buff energy and bomb armor on HoS armor. OP can go fuck himself.
Sorry for shitposting, but seriously, no. There's no reason to nerf HoS armor.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA my sidesTimrod wrote:sense physics-wise
>implying that thickness is what makes material bullet-proofTimrod wrote:spacesuits are thick enough to ward off space radiation and vacuum
Sorry for shitposting, but seriously, no. There's no reason to nerf HoS armor.
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Re: Nerf the HoS's armor
Buff bullet protection on the coat, too.
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I'm going to be reworking some armor values on things after the feature freeze and phasing out that awful swat helmet the captain has. I'm master balancer with certainly no bias, get hype for supercops.
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>Hurr I'm literally too dumb to strip people of their armor while they're stunned
You're kidding right? If you couldn't strip people while attacking them you might have a point, but the fact that you CAN do that means this topic is incredibly silly.
PS someone nerf stripping so that we can do this
You're kidding right? If you couldn't strip people while attacking them you might have a point, but the fact that you CAN do that means this topic is incredibly silly.
PS someone nerf stripping so that we can do this
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The point of the greater protection the HoS gets is that he is meant to represent a large obstacle. He's not meant to be a pushover and die as quickly as an assistant, nor is he meant to only take one or two more stabs to kill.
To be absolutely frank, its really easy to kill the HoS with a stun weapon, by just stripping them. Now not only is the HoS completely naked in about 3 seconds but now you have the HoS's armour.
I actually would support a system that gives Security and Antag armour a level of protection against stun/striping. If that was the case then the OP would have a good case on adjusting the protection values to a extent.
To be absolutely frank, its really easy to kill the HoS with a stun weapon, by just stripping them. Now not only is the HoS completely naked in about 3 seconds but now you have the HoS's armour.
I actually would support a system that gives Security and Antag armour a level of protection against stun/striping. If that was the case then the OP would have a good case on adjusting the protection values to a extent.
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If only HoS players were more aware of their robusting potential and stepped in when murderboners took out an officer like NOT ON MY STATION.
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Sometimes the e-sword's knockdown is bad.
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That reminds me I need to fix the ninja's esword to not do 70 brute
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I want to see the day a goliath miner fights the ninja.paprika wrote:That reminds me I need to fix the ninja's esword to not do 70 brute
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Sorry but as you may of realised the HoS shouldnt get his/her armour nerfed otherwise sec would probably have a dead head more often and have literally no organisation compared to a normal mish mash.
It makes sense for the HoS to be strongly protected. Just look at real life the suits you can buy now can be bullet proof. Now your guards can be stylish and protect you. Now how is this on topic simple that same tech but more advanced is what the HoS has. Nanotrasen needs a badass on the station sometimes.
It makes sense for the HoS to be strongly protected. Just look at real life the suits you can buy now can be bullet proof. Now your guards can be stylish and protect you. Now how is this on topic simple that same tech but more advanced is what the HoS has. Nanotrasen needs a badass on the station sometimes.
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I think the head of fighting deserves to not be made of fiber glass. You can beat them to death it just takes a strip down or dogged determination. An antag dragging a screaming hos as they slowly beat them to death is one of my favourite things.
Now armour on mechs negating tons ranged hits that is stupid as hell. Oh look I am immune to stuns and almost immune to most melee weapons and I can punch you to death, you better shoot me... haha NOPE!
Now armour on mechs negating tons ranged hits that is stupid as hell. Oh look I am immune to stuns and almost immune to most melee weapons and I can punch you to death, you better shoot me... haha NOPE!
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We're not going to debate mechs, mechs can be taken down by ranged e-guns/lasers with ease provided you don''t outwardly attack it straight on.Incomptinence wrote:I think the head of fighting deserves to not be made of fiber glass. You can beat them to death it just takes a strip down or dogged determination. An antag dragging a screaming hos as they slowly beat them to death is one of my favourite things.
Now armour on mechs negating tons ranged hits that is stupid as hell. Oh look I am immune to stuns and almost immune to most melee weapons and I can punch you to death, you better shoot me... haha NOPE!
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Re: Nerf the HoS's armor
lmao the HoS shouldn't be able to be get rekt by some greytider and his toolbox, that's why he's the freaking HoS.
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I bet I still could do it, too.geilebeer wrote:lmao the HoS shouldn't be able to be get rekt by some greytider and his toolbox, that's why he's the freaking HoS.
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Its easy to down the HoS, as noted above.
Literally just use a Stun Prod and apply Cuffs.
Pure brute damage is a simple joke to Security, you have to get slightly creative.
Literally just use a Stun Prod and apply Cuffs.
Pure brute damage is a simple joke to Security, you have to get slightly creative.
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dang, you're coolCipher3 wrote:I bet I still could do it, too.geilebeer wrote:lmao the HoS shouldn't be able to be get rekt by some greytider and his toolbox, that's why he's the freaking HoS.
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Cuffing and space is always funny to see.Steelpoint wrote:Its easy to down the HoS, as noted above.
Literally just use a Stun Prod and apply Cuffs.
Pure brute damage is a simple joke to Security, you have to get slightly creative.
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You know it.geilebeer wrote:dang, you're coolCipher3 wrote:I bet I still could do it, too.geilebeer wrote:lmao the HoS shouldn't be able to be get rekt by some greytider and his toolbox, that's why he's the freaking HoS.
But I know I've read somewhere on the wiki a line that basically says if you actually manage to down the HoS then his armor is a sweet and effective badge of honor, for traitors going loud everywhere.
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Re: Nerf the HoS's armor
Or you could just emag into his office that he literally never enters and steal the spare coat/dermal patch.
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Yeah, but then everyone's going to laugh at you like the scrub you are when the HoS's baton bypasses your esword and he chain-stun beats you to death.
Nothing like stealing the HoS's shit will make them hunt you down more
Nothing like stealing the HoS's shit will make them hunt you down more
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If only the HoS had araneus on boxstation.
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There's a lot of pets on Meta that Box doesn't have.paprika wrote:If only the HoS had araneus on boxstation.
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Re: Nerf the HoS's armor
and needs.
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Araneus needs to attack nonsec that enter the HoS's office.
Though I have seen him dunk a flukeops before. He killed three of them and the hull breach they caused alerted a CE who telescopic batoned the other two repeatedly while the spider died in the vaccuum of space and killed one more before losing aggro.
Though I have seen him dunk a flukeops before. He killed three of them and the hull breach they caused alerted a CE who telescopic batoned the other two repeatedly while the spider died in the vaccuum of space and killed one more before losing aggro.
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Re: Nerf the HoS's armor
Isn't Araneus just a resprited space bat though
i dont even know what the context for my signature was
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Re: Nerf the HoS's armor
Yeah.
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Re: Nerf the HoS's armor
I really don't think HoS needs any kind of nerf. The role is always a massive target for grief/antag anyway. It's often the reason I avoid playing the role. Making the armour weaker in anyway is only going to make the job even harder and frankly antag's should be avoiding the HoS rather than trying to go toe-to-toe. You're supposed to be a secret operative who's sneaked into the ranks of the station. To suddenly try to beat the shit out of the head of security seems a little counter-intuitive.
Whatever
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The only area I can see to improve the HoS's Armour is to buff its Energy and Bomb protection to an extent.
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Re: Nerf the HoS's armor
I want to be able to deconstruct the HOS armour in RnD and make copies of it.
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Re: Nerf the HoS's armor
-Insert my idea for having modular hardsuits-Steelpoint wrote:The only area I can see to improve the HoS's Armour is to buff its Energy and Bomb protection to an extent.
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