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day of the NT when...Toolbox sprites
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Re: Toolbox sprites
I wouldn't trust most of the coders to take care of my cat for a day, I definitely don't trust them to single-handedly decide the fate of the server by themselves, especially after their long and storied history if ruining the game until people scream at them enough and some kind soul who usually isn't even a coder steps up to unfuck everything.
See: Goofchem, newcult, secborg removal, the infinite amount of nerfing things that dunk them, the infinite amount of buffing things they like.
See: Goofchem, newcult, secborg removal, the infinite amount of nerfing things that dunk them, the infinite amount of buffing things they like.
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Re: Toolbox sprites
talk a lot of shit for someone who doesn't do anything but enjoy the fruits of their labor dude
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Re: Toolbox sprites
I tried to be the change I wanted to see and coded once, tweaked bottles to have a 1 and 2U transfer so virology would be slightly faster. The most trivial change in the world, you would think.
The PR was closed after a week of agonizing scrutiny over the merits of tweaking bottles and how this completely trivialized droppers and how I would thus be obligated with removing droppers from the game.
Never again.
The PR was closed after a week of agonizing scrutiny over the merits of tweaking bottles and how this completely trivialized droppers and how I would thus be obligated with removing droppers from the game.
Never again.
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Ok, you made a PR that people didn't agree with
welcome to the fucking club, buddy
to be fair, we have droppers for the exact thing you were trying to do. Use a dropper.
welcome to the fucking club, buddy
to be fair, we have droppers for the exact thing you were trying to do. Use a dropper.
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TG is the best of the worst. Goon is full of SJWs, Bay is full of *breathe mary sues that ban you if you do anything fun or dunk them, all the other servers are knockoff TG with worse administration.
Coders are thankfully very rare and never even play the game so the only time I have to deal with them is in times like this.
Coders are thankfully very rare and never even play the game so the only time I have to deal with them is in times like this.
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Thank you, your voice has been heard, it's good to know the community are so truly grateful.ShadowDimentio wrote:TG is the best.
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I've never said otherwise. TG is the best SS13 server. At least here you won't get banned for giving an admin a wrong look, you'll just get banned as soon as the admin can manufacture a reason to ban you.
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Re: Toolbox sprites
Hooleee shit. I come back into this thread and people are suddenly screaming at each other over the ethics of coding and how "all coders" see the playerbase. Please, don't get worked up over this. It isn't worth losing your sanity over. I don't know about other people, but I code for the game because I like it and I like coding. I don't have a super sekrit hatred of the machine and I don't think code and players are separate. At all. Literally anyone can make a PR, and even if it gets rejected, oh well, try something else. Life goes on, and even though I'll always be frustrated, I'll be cooled down in an hour or two.
"Coder" isn't a job or something. Some people are more active, but that doesn't make them any less of someone who enjoys the game. I don't do it because I like exerting godly powers over the proletariat from my all-powerful GitHub throne. Please don't try to classify people under a certain schema. It makes everyone involved upset and it isn't any better than saying that girls have cooties. "Coders hate the players!" Come on, people. You're better than this.
dannno, you made something that people didn't like. A lot of people, myself included, do like the new sprites, but accept the criticism without bashing anyone who doesn't like it. If people are assholes, don't be an asshole back. It just makes people do it more.
Shadow, I don't know where you got this stigma about coders from, but it's completely wrong. Hop in Coderbus on rizon sometimes, and you'll see that I'm right. We don't plot against players or say how much better we are. At the most we poke fun on the Sibyl vs. Bagil debate.
Remie, please don't feed the fires. You're our most senior maintainer and I know you're better than this.
And no, I don't care that people get my work for free and bash me for all the effort I put into it. Not everyone is inclined, and most people just want to have fun and enjoy the game, and that's perfectly fine. I can accept criticism in stride. I would hope that anyone who tries to code for us could, but it seems that I was wrong. I removed shadowlings with barely a peep after I recognized my mistakes. I didn't mind. Sometimes you just have to accept that you're wrong.
All this over a toolbox... I'd hate to see what would happen if someone changed the security jumpsuit.
"Coder" isn't a job or something. Some people are more active, but that doesn't make them any less of someone who enjoys the game. I don't do it because I like exerting godly powers over the proletariat from my all-powerful GitHub throne. Please don't try to classify people under a certain schema. It makes everyone involved upset and it isn't any better than saying that girls have cooties. "Coders hate the players!" Come on, people. You're better than this.
dannno, you made something that people didn't like. A lot of people, myself included, do like the new sprites, but accept the criticism without bashing anyone who doesn't like it. If people are assholes, don't be an asshole back. It just makes people do it more.
Shadow, I don't know where you got this stigma about coders from, but it's completely wrong. Hop in Coderbus on rizon sometimes, and you'll see that I'm right. We don't plot against players or say how much better we are. At the most we poke fun on the Sibyl vs. Bagil debate.
Remie, please don't feed the fires. You're our most senior maintainer and I know you're better than this.
And no, I don't care that people get my work for free and bash me for all the effort I put into it. Not everyone is inclined, and most people just want to have fun and enjoy the game, and that's perfectly fine. I can accept criticism in stride. I would hope that anyone who tries to code for us could, but it seems that I was wrong. I removed shadowlings with barely a peep after I recognized my mistakes. I didn't mind. Sometimes you just have to accept that you're wrong.
All this over a toolbox... I'd hate to see what would happen if someone changed the security jumpsuit.
I'm an ex-coder for /tg/. I made the original versions of clockcult, shadowlings, revenants, His Grace, and other stuff.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
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Kraso wrote:hi gay
wubli wrote:xhuis you said you were feeling better but every thread you make makes me worry more about your sanity
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wubli wrote:you are a cultist of the gay
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Re: Toolbox sprites
I like playing with them.Xhuis wrote: Remie, please don't feed the fires. You're our most senior maintainer and I know you're better than this.
Genuinely though I just try to lighten the mood.
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I'm glad about that, then. Tone isn't conveyed well over the Internet.
I'm an ex-coder for /tg/. I made the original versions of clockcult, shadowlings, revenants, His Grace, and other stuff.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
Kraso wrote:hi gay
wubli wrote:xhuis you said you were feeling better but every thread you make makes me worry more about your sanity
ExcessiveUseOfCobblestone wrote:Sorry I was making fun of xhuis' """""compromise""""" who insisted that was the correct term to use.
CitrusGender wrote:We've ended up disabling clockcult on sybil and bagil now (terry is having some problems.) We will give Xhuis some time until he wishes to work upon it again. As of now, please use this thread for ideas and not for bickering.
wubli wrote:you are a cultist of the gay
IkeTG wrote:It's a reflection of humanity, like all of man's creation. You cannot divorce this act from yourself, in a way there's a big titty moth inside all of us.
wesoda25 wrote:yeah no one was curious what it was from. Imagine choosing being a degenerate as your forum gimmick, LOL
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It really isn't.Xhuis wrote:I'm glad about that, then. Tone isn't conveyed well over the Internet.
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hey man trust me I knowXhuis wrote: dannno, you made something that people didn't like. A lot of people, myself included, do like the new sprites, but accept the criticism without bashing anyone who doesn't like it. If people are assholes, don't be an asshole back. It just makes people do it more.
that's why it's the way it is now
I'm not trying to bash anyone here
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Re: Toolbox sprites
GUESS WHAT: Oldchem won the polls over goofchem and guess what happened
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Re: Toolbox sprites
You know that's a door that swings two ways right?Remie Richards wrote:So, if we're such a nazi regime, why are you still here?
Honestly, I just wish that feedback honestly mattered in more cases than not. And I mean player feedback not purely git feedback. When a new feature gets added that will strongly change the state of the game, the approach should really be "Here's thing. Take a look." and when the playerbase responds "We don't want thing." the answer should never be "our code not yours too bad enjoy thing." That's really bad optics.
I really can't tell what is shitposting anymore and what the general feel is among the maintainers anymore. But if things are really moving back to the holier-than-thou divide of the past then it might be alright to just impose a server-side update freeze and be done with it.
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I'm just bad at reading it then, I guess.Remie Richards wrote:It really isn't.Xhuis wrote:I'm glad about that, then. Tone isn't conveyed well over the Internet.
I'm an ex-coder for /tg/. I made the original versions of clockcult, shadowlings, revenants, His Grace, and other stuff.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
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Kraso wrote:hi gay
wubli wrote:xhuis you said you were feeling better but every thread you make makes me worry more about your sanity
ExcessiveUseOfCobblestone wrote:Sorry I was making fun of xhuis' """""compromise""""" who insisted that was the correct term to use.
CitrusGender wrote:We've ended up disabling clockcult on sybil and bagil now (terry is having some problems.) We will give Xhuis some time until he wishes to work upon it again. As of now, please use this thread for ideas and not for bickering.
wubli wrote:you are a cultist of the gay
IkeTG wrote:It's a reflection of humanity, like all of man's creation. You cannot divorce this act from yourself, in a way there's a big titty moth inside all of us.
wesoda25 wrote:yeah no one was curious what it was from. Imagine choosing being a degenerate as your forum gimmick, LOL
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I was around for that. Bloody murder, by what I recall.Xhuis wrote:All this over a toolbox... I'd hate to see what would happen if someone changed the security jumpsuit.
I miss Shadowlings, though that's probably not for this thread.
Xhuis, His Grace is your /tg/ baby, right? Any thoughts on the mockup animation I put at the bottom of page 4?
I was there for that, too. I was one of the loudest bitchers, and I stand by my bitching. Goofchem was a carcrash, though it eventually got fixed and became better than before (though not by Goof's hand, by what I can tell).Bombadil wrote:GUESS WHAT: Oldchem won the polls over goofchem and guess what happened
Hornygranny wrote:It's not your codebase. It's our codebase. You can imply soft power as much as you want, but you don't have it. Division between the server and project is absolute. I'm not interested in reading dezzmont platitudes for the billionth time and won't be checking back in this thread.
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Re: Toolbox sprites
I still think that part of the charm comes from it being a normal toolbox that happens to be violently shaking. I wouldn't put up a fight if it got added, but I still want it to be a normal toolbox.AnonymousNow wrote:I was around for that. Bloody murder, by what I recall.Xhuis wrote:All this over a toolbox... I'd hate to see what would happen if someone changed the security jumpsuit.
I miss Shadowlings, though that's probably not for this thread.
Xhuis, His Grace is your /tg/ baby, right? Any thoughts on the mockup animation I put at the bottom of page 4?
As for you concerns about shadowling, this thread should cover it.
I'm an ex-coder for /tg/. I made the original versions of clockcult, shadowlings, revenants, His Grace, and other stuff.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
Kraso wrote:hi gay
wubli wrote:xhuis you said you were feeling better but every thread you make makes me worry more about your sanity
ExcessiveUseOfCobblestone wrote:Sorry I was making fun of xhuis' """""compromise""""" who insisted that was the correct term to use.
CitrusGender wrote:We've ended up disabling clockcult on sybil and bagil now (terry is having some problems.) We will give Xhuis some time until he wishes to work upon it again. As of now, please use this thread for ideas and not for bickering.
wubli wrote:you are a cultist of the gay
IkeTG wrote:It's a reflection of humanity, like all of man's creation. You cannot divorce this act from yourself, in a way there's a big titty moth inside all of us.
wesoda25 wrote:yeah no one was curious what it was from. Imagine choosing being a degenerate as your forum gimmick, LOL
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Re: Toolbox sprites
All this over a toolbox. I can't decide which side is being more autistic.
The third option a few posts back is the best imo
The third option a few posts back is the best imo
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Re: Toolbox sprites
what behavior are you upset at
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Re: Toolbox sprites
I really don't see a reason an unpaid volunteer should have to be nice to people calling him a talentless hack that should be removed.
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hey who said that
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you're a talentless hack who sould be removed danno
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sould
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Re: Toolbox sprites
>danno
>in game admin
When did we stray this far from the light.
On topic, new toolbox sprites are fine, just so long as they are as large as the old ones.
>in game admin
When did we stray this far from the light.
On topic, new toolbox sprites are fine, just so long as they are as large as the old ones.
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Re: Toolbox sprites
they're certainly not a tiny item
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Re: Toolbox sprites
Everyone whining like a bitch about WAAAH CODERS needs to lurk in coderbus and actually talk.
1% of a coder, 2% of a spriter, 97% >:3c
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d-down wif da burjoise
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Re: Toolbox sprites
AnonymousNow wrote:Hah! I don't know how pull requests work.
This is Round 2 of Now Getting Shit Added To The Game, with me knowing the absolute bare-bones basics and trying not to fuck everything up. I'm hoping to get to Round 3, which is where I try actually code something, but in the meantime, there's this.
Actual Size, scale to the storage.dmi file and the images at the start of this thread...
Scaled-up for a detailed look...Alternative "new" toolbox sprites. They're the Goonsprites, given back the third dimension, with a handle tweak.Spoiler:
I think I vaguely know how pulls work now. Is it worth putting this one up?
EDIT: Made them a pixel taller than the Goonsprites, as well. Also, added the Syndiebox, which I'd entirely forgotten about on my first pass. Oops!
Problem solved everyone can go home now
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Re: Toolbox sprites
So can we close this thread now?
Because these sprites aren't gonna be changed back.
Also, stockholm syndrome.
Because these sprites aren't gonna be changed back.
Also, stockholm syndrome.
Apparently I was an director or something.
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... I was agreeing with you.Xhuis wrote:I'm just bad at reading it then, I guess.Remie Richards wrote:It really isn't.Xhuis wrote:I'm glad about that, then. Tone isn't conveyed well over the Internet.
It really ISN'T conveyed well.
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Re: Toolbox sprites
ಠ╭╮ಠRemie Richards wrote:... I was agreeing with you.Xhuis wrote:I'm just bad at reading it then, I guess.Remie Richards wrote:It really isn't.Xhuis wrote:I'm glad about that, then. Tone isn't conveyed well over the Internet.
It really ISN'T conveyed well.
I'm an ex-coder for /tg/. I made the original versions of clockcult, shadowlings, revenants, His Grace, and other stuff.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
Kraso wrote:hi gay
wubli wrote:xhuis you said you were feeling better but every thread you make makes me worry more about your sanity
ExcessiveUseOfCobblestone wrote:Sorry I was making fun of xhuis' """""compromise""""" who insisted that was the correct term to use.
CitrusGender wrote:We've ended up disabling clockcult on sybil and bagil now (terry is having some problems.) We will give Xhuis some time until he wishes to work upon it again. As of now, please use this thread for ideas and not for bickering.
wubli wrote:you are a cultist of the gay
IkeTG wrote:It's a reflection of humanity, like all of man's creation. You cannot divorce this act from yourself, in a way there's a big titty moth inside all of us.
wesoda25 wrote:yeah no one was curious what it was from. Imagine choosing being a degenerate as your forum gimmick, LOL
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Re: Toolbox sprites
I am a toolbox and I endorse the new sprites AMA
Arthur Thomson says, "Since there are no admins I would loging with another account and kill you"
Caleb Robinson laughs.
Arthur Thomson catches fire!
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Caleb Robinson laughs.
Arthur Thomson catches fire!
tusterman11 wrote:Can you stop lying? I just asked you and you are was a piece of shiit on me!!!
EngamerAzari's real number one fangirl <3Kor wrote:I wish Wyzack was still an admin.
certified good poster
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How are you alive?Wyzack wrote:I am a toolbox and I endorse the new sprites AMA
I'm an ex-coder for /tg/. I made the original versions of clockcult, shadowlings, revenants, His Grace, and other stuff.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
I don't play, code, or participate in the community, but I occasionally post dumb stuff in the hut.
Kraso wrote:hi gay
wubli wrote:xhuis you said you were feeling better but every thread you make makes me worry more about your sanity
ExcessiveUseOfCobblestone wrote:Sorry I was making fun of xhuis' """""compromise""""" who insisted that was the correct term to use.
CitrusGender wrote:We've ended up disabling clockcult on sybil and bagil now (terry is having some problems.) We will give Xhuis some time until he wishes to work upon it again. As of now, please use this thread for ideas and not for bickering.
wubli wrote:you are a cultist of the gay
IkeTG wrote:It's a reflection of humanity, like all of man's creation. You cannot divorce this act from yourself, in a way there's a big titty moth inside all of us.
wesoda25 wrote:yeah no one was curious what it was from. Imagine choosing being a degenerate as your forum gimmick, LOL
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Are you His Grace?Wyzack wrote:I am a toolbox and I endorse the new sprites AMA
1% of a coder, 2% of a spriter, 97% >:3c
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I'm not dude im a toolbox jeez racist much?Xhuis wrote:How are you alive?Wyzack wrote:I am a toolbox and I endorse the new sprites AMA
No but he is a good friend of mine. Nice guy, occasionally leaves human gibs around my place though which kinda grosses me out. You humans are nasty on the insideHaevacht wrote:Are you His Grace?Wyzack wrote:I am a toolbox and I endorse the new sprites AMA
Arthur Thomson says, "Since there are no admins I would loging with another account and kill you"
Caleb Robinson laughs.
Arthur Thomson catches fire!
certified good poster
Caleb Robinson laughs.
Arthur Thomson catches fire!
tusterman11 wrote:Can you stop lying? I just asked you and you are was a piece of shiit on me!!!
EngamerAzari's real number one fangirl <3Kor wrote:I wish Wyzack was still an admin.
certified good poster
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Re: Toolbox sprites
SEE THE RED ON HIS GRACE I WAS RIGHT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL ALONG AHAHAHA
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Re: Toolbox sprites
Pretty much.TheColdTurtle wrote:Used to dislike nu boxes, they are good I think now
Now that they're larger and slightly better detailed, I'm happier. I still wish that they were 3D (and I could edit them to be like that).
Hornygranny wrote:It's not your codebase. It's our codebase. You can imply soft power as much as you want, but you don't have it. Division between the server and project is absolute. I'm not interested in reading dezzmont platitudes for the billionth time and won't be checking back in this thread.
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Re: Toolbox sprites
six pages of autism over toolbox sprites
moral of the story is don't change legacy sprites because "MUH FUTURE PROGRESS OF ARTWORK"
moral of the story is don't change legacy sprites because "MUH FUTURE PROGRESS OF ARTWORK"
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Re: Toolbox sprites
no it isn't
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Re: Toolbox sprites
if democracy is powerful enough to remove toolbox sprites it is powerful enough to remove those shit pais
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Re: Toolbox sprites
but it actually wasn't powerful enough to remove themconfused rock wrote:if democracy is powerful enough to remove toolbox sprites it is powerful enough to remove those shit pais
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Re: Toolbox sprites
good thread
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