Trialmin Review: Sawrge
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Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Sawrge has now been in the .txt as a Trial Admin for two months now.
Please use this thread as public review; it's encouraged for players to comment on how well/badly the trial admin has done and whether or not they think the trial admin should be made a full admin, if they should be removed from the .txt or if their promotion should be delayed.
Please use this thread as public review; it's encouraged for players to comment on how well/badly the trial admin has done and whether or not they think the trial admin should be made a full admin, if they should be removed from the .txt or if their promotion should be delayed.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Vote to promote, people are probably going to come in here and make epic posts calling him unfit for admin and just a shitposter, but he's an excellent admin who unironically understands the spirit of the game better than them anyway so who cares what they think.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Puts hikus in his trial review
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Memey as hell (I can't talk though) and hates me but most of the time at the end of the day he's right.
Oh yeah and people overreact to his posts too much, they're not that bad compared to certain others.
Oh yeah and people overreact to his posts too much, they're not that bad compared to certain others.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
My ONLY problem with sawrge is that he takes very little seriously
I like having some people on the team who aren't quite as serious as the rest, but I've seen a few posts where I start to question if sawrge has ever read the admin guidelines
It's not to the point where I'd hope he doesn't get promoted, but I hope sawrge at least takes my point into consideration
Otherwise, haven't seen anything from him that would make him unfit for admin, vote to promote
I like having some people on the team who aren't quite as serious as the rest, but I've seen a few posts where I start to question if sawrge has ever read the admin guidelines
It's not to the point where I'd hope he doesn't get promoted, but I hope sawrge at least takes my point into consideration
Otherwise, haven't seen anything from him that would make him unfit for admin, vote to promote
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Basically this. The weird thing is he is a completely different person when not adminning and I don't know what to make of that.Qbopper wrote:My ONLY problem with sawrge is that he takes very little seriously
I like having some people on the team who aren't quite as serious as the rest, but I've seen a few posts where I start to question if sawrge has ever read the admin guidelines
It's not to the point where I'd hope he doesn't get promoted, but I hope sawrge at least takes my point into consideration
Otherwise, haven't seen anything from him that would make him unfit for admin, vote to promote
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Stupid aussie headmin, this review wasn't due until tomorrow.
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
Spoiler:
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
It's tomorrow in AusfailiaPKPenguin321 wrote:Stupid aussie headmin, this review wasn't due until tomorrow.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Could I ask you to elaborate?bandit wrote: Basically this. The weird thing is he is a completely different person when not adminning and I don't know what to make of that.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
say what you want about his posts, sawrge is a trooper for loving this game enough to still be here and still be trying to contribute and make it better
shaps said it best, he understands the spirit of the game better than 95% 100% of the people around here.
edit: actually probably 100%
shaps said it best, he understands the spirit of the game better than 95% 100% of the people around here.
edit: actually probably 100%
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
which is all well and good, but positives don't erase negativesdanno wrote:say what you want about his posts, sawrge is a trooper for loving this game enough to still be here and still be trying to contribute and make it better
shaps said it best, he understands the spirit of the game better than 95% 100% of the people around here.
edit: actually probably 100%
I'd like to see him get fullmin but that doesn't change the fact that some of his posts have been less than stellar
(I think it's obvious I mean in forums outside of the hut but I want to clarify that anyways)
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Are there any notably egregious enough that you'd like to specifically address?Qbopper wrote: which is all well and good, but positives don't erase negatives
I'd like to see him get fullmin but that doesn't change the fact that some of his posts have been less than stellar
(I think it's obvious I mean in forums outside of the hut but I want to clarify that anyways)
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Not really, hence why I still think you should be an admincaptain sawrge wrote:Are there any notably egregious enough that you'd like to specifically address?Qbopper wrote: which is all well and good, but positives don't erase negatives
I'd like to see him get fullmin but that doesn't change the fact that some of his posts have been less than stellar
(I think it's obvious I mean in forums outside of the hut but I want to clarify that anyways)
I just wish you would take things ever so slightly more seriously outside the hut, like you seem to be doing in this thread, so I guess we're done here
Limey wrote:its too late.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
seems disappointingly average ingame, i was expecting hyper god tier ingame rulings after shaps's hyped up one-over
not a final judgement but just something i wanna say
not a final judgement but just something i wanna say
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
Spoiler:
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
lolPKPenguin321 wrote:seems disappointingly average ingame, i was expecting hyper god tier ingame rulings after shaps's hyped up one-over
not a final judgement but just something i wanna say
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Good,friendly and kind,captain sawrge wrote:All feedback welcome
but do not tarnish my name
lest you regret it.
sawrge sure is a great admin.
You should promote him!
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
retarded brokebrain
only a fool would promote him
please heed my warning
only a fool would promote him
please heed my warning
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
if you're going to make a negative post I would make it not a meme haiku
also I noticed that when it was extended he made antags almost instantly without even saying to the other admins on "I'm going to make antags", and when me and pkp pointed out that it was a little lame he cited his opinion that "admin events are contrary to the spirit of the game", which kind missed the point I was getting at
EDIT: to be clear I'm still not saying "he's shit deadmin", just pointing out something I thought was negative
also I noticed that when it was extended he made antags almost instantly without even saying to the other admins on "I'm going to make antags", and when me and pkp pointed out that it was a little lame he cited his opinion that "admin events are contrary to the spirit of the game", which kind missed the point I was getting at
EDIT: to be clear I'm still not saying "he's shit deadmin", just pointing out something I thought was negative
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
he repeats our jokes
a shitpost chameleon
but his heart is black
a shitpost chameleon
but his heart is black
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
First line is 6 syllables, invalid feedback.Kor wrote:he repeats our jokes
a shitpost chameleon
but his heart is black
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
we both share one mindQbopper wrote:if you're going to make a negative post I would make it not a meme haiku
my loathing of captain sawrge
is hate for myself
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Qbopper is wrong,
he's serious when it counts,
promote him post-haste.
he's serious when it counts,
promote him post-haste.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Anything I put
in this thread, sawrge will take as
a biased attack
in this thread, sawrge will take as
a biased attack
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
did you not read my post where I said "oh he's doing the thing I said to do in this thread so there's not really any issue here"Haevacht wrote:Qbopper is wrong,
he's serious when it counts,
promote him post-haste.
Limey wrote:its too late.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
I tend to skip past,Qbopper wrote:did you not read my post where I said "oh he's doing the thing I said to do in this thread so there's not really any issue here"Haevacht wrote:Qbopper is wrong,
he's serious when it counts,
promote him post-haste.
most the bullshit that you post,
you're dumb, unlike sawrge.
1% of a coder, 2% of a spriter, 97% >:3c
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
are you sure, sawrge gave out his password once, that's pretty dumb
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Speaking in haikus
Like a bunch of school children
It's snowing on Mt. Fuji
Like a bunch of school children
It's snowing on Mt. Fuji
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
"my dick rips your ass" is a better final line tbhMrStonedOne wrote:Speaking in haikus
Like a bunch of school children
It's snowing on Mt. Fuji
Limey wrote:its too late.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
howNikNakFlak wrote:Anything I put
in this thread, sawrge will take as
a biased attack
how can you post this
when you suggested oranges be AC and they said "no" you went into coderbus and cried about how you were attacked
you are infamous for doing this
am I being baited
fuck
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
>ask oranges to be an AC
>people say no
>go to coderbus
>tell oranges they said no
>sawrge calls me a snake
>nothing happens
>says some accusatory stuff
>nothing happens
I know you are his butt buddy but ok
>people say no
>go to coderbus
>tell oranges they said no
>sawrge calls me a snake
>nothing happens
>says some accusatory stuff
>nothing happens
I know you are his butt buddy but ok
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
this is actually sawrge that posted this they post through each other after meta communicating he did this so it wouldnt appear as if niknaks bait workeddanno wrote:howNikNakFlak wrote:Anything I put
in this thread, sawrge will take as
a biased attack
how can you post this
when you suggested oranges be AC and they said "no" you went into coderbus and cried about how you were attacked
you are infamous for doing this
am I being baited
fuck
i play Lauser McMauligan. clown name is Cold-Ass Honkey
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
If there are 5 more off-topic posts in this thread I get instantly promoted
Watch out!
Watch out!
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
I will now recite a limerick with the wrong number of syllables because fuck that
There once was an admin named sawrge
he put his password out there at large
he made some dumb bans
and shitposted with his fans
but will be promoted anyway due to the admins in charge
There once was an admin named sawrge
he put his password out there at large
he made some dumb bans
and shitposted with his fans
but will be promoted anyway due to the admins in charge
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
fails to conduct themselves to the guidelines for admins, leaked their password to player who then could view the admin forum (?how did they not immediatley get deadminned?), shitposts more in the adminbus irc than I can
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Which bans did you disagree with?NikNakFlak wrote:I will now recite a limerick with the wrong number of syllables because fuck that
There once was an admin named sawrge
he put his password out there at large
he made some dumb bans
and shitposted with his fans
but will be promoted anyway due to the admins in charge
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
When and how have I shitposted in the admin IRC?oranges wrote:fails to conduct themselves to the guidelines for admins, leaked their password to player who then could view the admin profile, shitposts more in the adminbus irc than I can
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Too serious and abrasive. He's got the look but he just doesn't have the heart of the cards
Life is too short for anything meaningful and too long for anything memeingful
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
This happens sometimes, yescaptain sawrge wrote:When and how have I shitposted in the admin IRC?oranges wrote:fails to conduct themselves to the guidelines for admins, leaked their password to player who then could view the admin profile, shitposts more in the adminbus irc than I can
Wasn't aware of that and that's a hilariously big goof but I believe another admin has had their account compromised as well
Shitposting in the IRC isn't a big deal anyhow
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
can we fucking not
turn this thread into fucking
stupid shitposting
turn this thread into fucking
stupid shitposting
idk how much there really is to elaborate, your level of memey-ness when dealing with players is like 100 times the level of memey-ness when not dealing with players. which suggests that you do have the capability to tone it down, but ideally it'd be the other way around.Could I ask you to elaborate?
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Generally in actual PMs/admin related business, I try to keep it more serious. It is really only in OOC/outside the game where I let loose.bandit wrote: idk how much there really is to elaborate, your level of memey-ness when dealing with players is like 100 times the level of memey-ness when not dealing with players. which suggests that you do have the capability to tone it down, but ideally it'd be the other way around.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
who candidated them?
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
they must have more information about you than me
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
I'll preface this by saying that I really like Sawrge as a person, and would like to continue seeing them in adminbus and around.
That being said, I think that Sawrge's conduct as an administrator is incredibly unprofessional. I feel like this is often overlooked or ignored due to the fact that he's been an admin before, which leads me to believe that he should've just been made a full admin rather than go through the trial process if his actions during the trial are going to be glossed over. If he was anyone else, I think that he would've had his trial extended or worse due to his conduct, including: telling everyone in mumble his admin password so that they could go shitpost in his name and look through the admin forum, shitposting in every single admin feedback thread, and sharing an extremely aggressive and incendiary post about Kevinz in his mumble group inciting one of them who doesn't even play the game to come and post it on Kevinz' feedback thread.
As a side note, saying that running admin events goes against the spirit of the game really rubs me the wrong way. I believe that we're here to make sure everyone has a good time and has fun, and running the occasional event or mixing up the game to provide people with a unique experience is absolutely in the spirit of the game to me. I hope that the irony of speaking out against getting involved in the round while simultaneously overriding extended by forcing a regular antag mode isn't lost on you.
Overall, Sawrge seems like a really good dude. Even with my complaints, Sawrge doesn't raise any of the big red flags like a shitty attitude or abuse of power. I really hopes he takes the criticism to heart and improves as an admin, I like seeing him around. My vote is to extend his trial.
Sidenote: Can we please stop trying to devalue the posts of people who don't share your opinion in these feedback threads? Seriously, the first post in Kevinz thread said "...I know there's going to be a bunch of people who say, "Oh I love kevinz he makes le meme face xD xD :^)"" to try and make everyone who supports Kevinz sound like a fucking retard. And this thread, with "...people are going to make Epic posts about how he's unfit to be an admin and a shitposter" etc etc. Like, I'm certain we can all be adults about this and have differing opinions about an administrator without trying to downplay anyone who doesn't agree with you.
That being said, I think that Sawrge's conduct as an administrator is incredibly unprofessional. I feel like this is often overlooked or ignored due to the fact that he's been an admin before, which leads me to believe that he should've just been made a full admin rather than go through the trial process if his actions during the trial are going to be glossed over. If he was anyone else, I think that he would've had his trial extended or worse due to his conduct, including: telling everyone in mumble his admin password so that they could go shitpost in his name and look through the admin forum, shitposting in every single admin feedback thread, and sharing an extremely aggressive and incendiary post about Kevinz in his mumble group inciting one of them who doesn't even play the game to come and post it on Kevinz' feedback thread.
As a side note, saying that running admin events goes against the spirit of the game really rubs me the wrong way. I believe that we're here to make sure everyone has a good time and has fun, and running the occasional event or mixing up the game to provide people with a unique experience is absolutely in the spirit of the game to me. I hope that the irony of speaking out against getting involved in the round while simultaneously overriding extended by forcing a regular antag mode isn't lost on you.
Overall, Sawrge seems like a really good dude. Even with my complaints, Sawrge doesn't raise any of the big red flags like a shitty attitude or abuse of power. I really hopes he takes the criticism to heart and improves as an admin, I like seeing him around. My vote is to extend his trial.
Sidenote: Can we please stop trying to devalue the posts of people who don't share your opinion in these feedback threads? Seriously, the first post in Kevinz thread said "...I know there's going to be a bunch of people who say, "Oh I love kevinz he makes le meme face xD xD :^)"" to try and make everyone who supports Kevinz sound like a fucking retard. And this thread, with "...people are going to make Epic posts about how he's unfit to be an admin and a shitposter" etc etc. Like, I'm certain we can all be adults about this and have differing opinions about an administrator without trying to downplay anyone who doesn't agree with you.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Oh I forgot to mention I thought his stance on events was awful, but that's mostly personal opinion and I have no issue with having some admins who like events and some who don't so it's not really a big deal in my eyes
EDIT: <sawrge1e9> but i'm not going to start acting more "professional" than i already do
I'm not sure if I'm a positive vote anymore
EDIT: <sawrge1e9> but i'm not going to start acting more "professional" than i already do
I'm not sure if I'm a positive vote anymore
Limey wrote:its too late.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
"mumble" is a joke
it doesn't exist
no one uses mumble anymore we use ventrilo
it doesn't exist
no one uses mumble anymore we use ventrilo
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
After speaking with Sawrge in adminbus I'm altering my vote to him being removed as an administrator. He's expressed outright that he has no interest in trying to be any more professional or take anything more seriously than he has, and after the long list of shit that occurred during his trial, it's a huge red flag for someone on the brink of becoming a full admin. I think promoting someone who doesn't treat being administrator any different than posting in the hut is a mistake, and sets an awful precedent for future administrators.
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Re: Trialmin Review: Sawrge
Sawrge handles any actual admin related business with an acceptable amount of "professionalism"
I don't even understand this. This is fantasy. How would you even know what he does in an imaginary joke mumble that doesn't existand sharing an extremely aggressive and incendiary post about Kevinz in his mumble group inciting one of them who doesn't even play the game to come and post it on Kevinz' feedback thread.
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