Today I got adminbwoinked and told off because, as a warden, I detained and then executed someone. This person was running with a weldertank and welding tool, wearing greytider gear and a jacket and balaclava, a lit welder in their hand and an IED in their pocket. Someone matching their description had welderbomb-IED'd the brig a few minutes before, and many other welderbombs had been set off in the HoP office and elsewhere. There were a large number of greytiders running around attacking sec and dragging weldertanks around.
I was initially told it was unacceptable for me to have executed them, especially without escalating for permission. It later transpired that they had set off welderbombs elsewhere, though not at the brig. They were not an antag.
And here I was thinking randomly welderbombing the station as an assistant wasn't allowed anymore. Here I was also thinking anyone acting like an antag can be treated like an antag - such as by being spaced or executed. It's a shame to see that greytiders appear free to escalate as non-antags and apparently bomb as they please, while also quite able to get security players in trouble by complaining about their IC treatment in adminhelps. This is why by and large it feels like the best move is to ignore bwoinks as security.
This is why, when for example,
J_Mad got a weekban from sec for N2O-internaling IcePacks, the state of our adminning feels pretty disappointing. IcePacks attacked an officer, verbally demanded they "do something" about it, was then brigged for a few minutes and broke out, was then perma'd briefly as no cells were available (gulag tele was broken, gulag shuttle breached) and then broke out again from perma with help from the AI, then attacked the officer another time and tried to choke them out, the officer only being saved by another. And the officer was the one banned for then putting them on N2O internals.
Do any admins have a go at boobs who do this sort of stuff? Does anyone ever get notes / bans for greytiding / attacking sec and crying admin when they go down? It feels a lot like it's just sec that get the rap for this sort of stuff, and as a greytider, anything goes.