Banning admin: Jimmius
Ban type (What are you banned from?): Note
Ban reason and length: -
Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2019-04-23 20:36:11 Servertime
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): Terry
I want to clarify some things because I don't feel like I am metagrudging anybody and I certainly don't admit to it.Note Text wrote:admitted to metagrudging FallingAsteroids over an incident 2-3 weeks ago where the latter burned down engineering by accident. In this particular case, they flashed, stripped, and stole cigarettes from fallingasteroids (the cigarettes are what caused the plasma fire apparently). From what I gather from talking with both of them, this is far from the first time the weeks old incident has caused issues between the two. The next time something like this happens, it should be dealt with harshly.
The original incident: FallingAsteroids / Fren Cee burned down Engineering because they walked into Engineering, which an incompetent Engineer had previously flooded with Plasma, with a lit cigarette. As curator, mind you, so they were trespassing aswell. I usually kick most people out of Engineering, including people given access by the HoP or Captain without my consent, because I don't want anyone fucking with the Engine or Atmos but I take special care to place this guy on the hallway side of the Engineering airlock if I see him inside without an Engineering ID because of that incident. I generally don't strip people except to remove access from IDs.
Aside from that, I mostly ignore and not once went out of my way to antagonize the other party because I'd rather play the game than put myself in situations that aren't fun.
In this particular incident, I was the CE in a round that had been going on for about 2 hours. The engine had been sabotaged twice that round and I was obviously very protective of it and Engineering as a whole; every Assistant who'd been promoted without my consent was batoned, cuffed, access removed and thrown out. Aside from 2 trips outside to fix something on the Bridge and in Perma I had spent the entire game in Engineering (mostly fixing the Engine and further sabotage-proofing it). Close to the end of the round I was standing in the Engineering lobby and talking to the detective who was concerned about an atmos issue. Fren Cee was loitering outside as I was finishing with the detective, sees me and slurs a drunken "fuck u". For the insult I flashed him, batoned him, threw him a couple tiles away and took the cigarettes. I didn't strip him and I didn't do it without provocation. In that same round a bit later an officer also came to arrest me near round end because somebody had framed me for an attempted murder. The officer didn't want to tell me who did so and I just went with them because the officer was polite and I hadn't done anything besides killing a traitor with his own DESword, which was witnessed only by an Assistant who a) saw the other guy pull the DESword, after I stunned the Assistant to remove them from Engineering b) didn't tip security off that I had killed someone (out of spite for trying to kick them out or some other stupid reason), as I had asked them OOC, which leaves me wondering who did tell Security I had (attempted to) kill/killed someone.
I don't know if it was him who tried to pin something on me but I would appreciate that being looked into. I did mention it to Jimmius near round-end as I was detained but he didn't say anything about it.
Generally, this is how all of our clashes go. I am sought out and insulted or pushed, I flash or baton him and walk away. When I play AI which is probably the majority of games he also likes to whine AI ROGUE on the radio for anything that could potentially maybe be done by a rogue AI, such as power issues, atmos issues, a shocked door, etc. If it's a slow round I'll call him a retard for it and move on or if I'm busy I ignore it.
In one particular incident that I remember, which was very early on and maybe a day or two after the plasmafire. At that point I didn't have anything against the person behind the character except that I thought they were stupid for running into Engineering with a lit cigarette and without access. I played as CMO and one of my subordinates was arrested for some stupid non-issue. I don't remember exactly why but I went to the brig and threatened to refuse medical treatment to the entirety of the security team if my subordinate wasn't released, the HoS reprimanded the officer and gave me my subordinate back. The curator wrote a news article praising the CMO for sticking up for his subordinates but referred to me as she (my character has long hair and it happens every now and then so eh). I went to the library to ask him to fix it, but couldn't get his attention by talking to him for about 30 seconds. I started throwing some stuff at him that was laying around (paper rolls or something, some library crap with throwforce 0) but he kept ignoring me so I just left and went back to medbay. Not a minute after there was another news article up in which he writes that he wasn't aware that I was the CMO, and that I was bad, evil or whatever, basically a bunch of insults, and that I had tried killing the poor, poor curator for getting my gender wrong.
This kind of behavior and forced escalation by him is generally how most of these things go when they go further than an insult in the hallway being met with a 3 second stun and me walking off and I definitely don't feel like I am metagrudging him.
I flash people all the time, such as clowns for slipping me, when people are in my way on a non-help intent and I can't pass them, the other day I telebatonned an officer for telling me to "pick up that can" after throwing one on the floor infront of me (although that one did at least get a chuckle out of me). I flashed an atmos tech earlier today because I needed firefighting gear to deal with a traitor sitting on the engine trying to force a delam and he would neither give it up nor deal with it himself. Point is, while I'll happily admit that I think the guy is a stupid asshole, I'm not metagrudging him and I'd like the note removed.