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If they had apologized, people would have forgiven them and moved on. Personally, I didn't want them gone. I just wanted them to own up and promise they wouldn't abuse their admin powers in the future.
I don't know the circumstances around their retirement, and I don't know them well enough to speak on any level of specificity. However, if it really is case that they chose to walk out in a huff instead of just saying "Sorry, it won't happen again", then I can't say that I'm terribly distraught about their departure. It's inevitable that any admin is gonna screw up at some point, but there's an implicit expectation that an admin should have the emotional maturity to acknowledge it when it happens, apologize, and change for the better.
May sound a bit harsh, but that's my two cents. The character issue isn't whether you make a mistake, but how you handle a mistake.
Farquaar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:43 pm
Imagine my grandparents surviving nazi concentration camps only for their grandson to be accused of nazism for criticizing a citrus fruit on the internet.
oranges wrote:obviously there's more to it than the surface level isn't there, they must have got some kind of abuse from someone privately
Potentially. Which would indeed suck and be completely unwarranted given the circumstances. But without any word on that subject from them, the headmins, or people who know them personally, I as a player can only speculate.
Farquaar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:43 pm
Imagine my grandparents surviving nazi concentration camps only for their grandson to be accused of nazism for criticizing a citrus fruit on the internet.
Farquaar wrote:I just wanted them to own up and promise they wouldn't abuse their admin powers in the future.
Please, this was such a minor thing that I can't even believe these complaints are made in good faith. Let this be a lesson to any admins going forth that you should literally fucking never interact with manuelshitters because they will cry and whine like babies over their precious "ARE PEE" being "ruined" should you do anything to impact their round
Had this been done on the other servers, nobody would have batted and eye and would have just had fun fighting a blob
ABUSE does not mean what you think it means, because if this is something someone would call abuse, I shudder to think of what you'd call someone actually maliciously using buttons to fuck the server over for no reason
pick your battles, and have them make sense
Farquaar wrote:I just wanted them to own up and promise they wouldn't abuse their admin powers in the future.
Please, this was such a minor thing that I can't even believe these complaints are made in good faith. Let this be a lesson to any admins going forth that you should literally fucking never interact with manuelshitters because they will cry and whine like babies over their precious "ARE PEE" being "ruined" should you do anything to impact their round
Had this been done on the other servers, nobody would have batted and eye and would have just had fun fighting a blob
ABUSE does not mean what you think it means, because if this is something someone would call abuse, I shudder to think of what you'd call someone actually maliciously using buttons to fuck the server over for no reason
pick your battles, and have them make sense
You stupid?
Stickymayhem wrote:Imagine the sheer narcisssim required to genuinely believe you are this intelligent.
Farquaar wrote:I don't know the circumstances around their retirement, and I don't know them well enough to speak on any level of specificity. However, if it really is case that they chose to walk out in a huff instead of just saying "Sorry, it won't happen again", then I can't say that I'm terribly distraught about their departure..
If they truly felt bad about it, maybe this is what they thought the only proper way to make up for their mistake would be. After all, Saying "sorry" in any form of sincerity often isn't enough to make up for a lot of things. I don't want to go too much into armchair psychologist though since it's not like Paxilmaniac has died so they could just respond themself
Personally, I used to try to ban (and still ask to be banned) myself whenever I think I do something wrong in or related to ss13 since I see it as the only thing left to do if trying to apologize isn't enough.
Or you could say "IT DOESN'T SAY WELCOME BACK ANYTIME AT THE END OF THE RETIREMENT POST OH NOOOOOO"
wesoda25 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:02 am
Qbmax32 is quite literally one of the dumbest individuals I have ever had the misfortune of coming into contact with. He has zero redeemable traits, and honestly I have to suppress my gag reflex every time he shows up in a conversation.
Malkraz wrote:YES
DRINK THE PISS QB
angelstarri wrote:qbmax is a retard
imsxz wrote:mythic please stop you’ve hit rock bottom and you KEEP DIGGING
deedubya wrote:I'll defend to the death your right to scream "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" on a constant basis, but I'll also equally defend the right of people to call you a fuckin' pillock for doing it.
datorangebottle wrote:what, not having to act like customer service in a volunteer customer service position?
Here's a rebuttal: you're literally in a customer service slash celebrity position. Volunteer or not.
Malkraz wrote:can you stop posting this shit
Nalzul wrote:Fuck Blob (can you imagine how hot it would be to be gangbanged by a bunch of blobbernauts, the blob, and spores)
Wyzack wrote:qbmax your pathetic display of abhorrent burgercraft has brought shame onto the omnivores
Plapatin wrote:i AM the senate
BONERMASTER wrote:I am a big thinker, and it would only be logical if my character had a big head as well. And glasses. Because only people that think, wear glasses.
feem wrote:i tried to send canisters of urine to the station but ended up turning all oxygen into urine and breaking lavaland and also breathing
Anonmare wrote:Each post in this thread can't settle on what it wants to be, but yet, each one is more cursed than the last.
Beesting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
Vile Beggar wrote:i don't like this thread
imsxz wrote:nervore
FantasticFwoosh wrote:I will whisper sweet nothings that will confuse and perhaps scare you a little, but enhance the experience no-less.
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:By the way, the person who posted that catgirl porn on the github page was me. If anyone wants my private stash just PM me
Nervere wrote:Anything for a femoid.....
Qbopper wrote:I'm a dumb poopy butthead
CitrusGender wrote:god i love it when people feed me my own fried legs
Farquaar wrote:I just wanted them to own up and promise they wouldn't abuse their admin powers in the future.
Please, this was such a minor thing that I can't even believe these complaints are made in good faith. Let this be a lesson to any admins going forth that you should literally fucking never interact with manuelshitters because they will cry and whine like babies over their precious "ARE PEE" being "ruined" should you do anything to impact their round
Had this been done on the other servers, nobody would have batted and eye and would have just had fun fighting a blob
ABUSE does not mean what you think it means, because if this is something someone would call abuse, I shudder to think of what you'd call someone actually maliciously using buttons to fuck the server over for no reason
pick your battles, and have them make sense
you okay?
The same poster, over and over and over and over and over and-
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
Owegno wrote:Since some people here are questioning me and other admins who were on at the time the other admins I believe were busy training an AC as I noticed they were in the training channel at the time and I don't blame them for not getting into an admin fight over this.
As for myself I wasn't really aware of what was going on in the round initially, hence why I didn't do anything. I got on the server to see Paxil buffing a blob which I thought was spawned by random event. I spent most of that round trying to figure out the situation, first by trying to learn how blob code works to see how much they buffed so I could judge if it was balanced or not (and it is takes me time to figure out code, hence my original false belief that they effectively gave the blob 5 free resource nodes, but I now know that the blob_points and blob_bonus_points uses a separate, longer timer from the ones resource nodes use). I did question their buffing of the blob and was going to remove the buffs once it was clear the blob was too powerful for the crew, but the blob rerolled before I could do that which had removed the buffs. I was considering using admin explosions to nerf the blob a bit more to make it a balanced fight for the crew (as the blob was at around 250/400 at this point if my memory serves), but I decided to check admin logs first and spent the rest of the round reading them, as a result I missed them later buffing the blob after it rerolled.
By the time the round ended I was nearly done reading the admin logs but had not fully formulated an opinion on it and didn't want to argue with Paxil given that I thought a headmin approved their actions. I only realized that Jimmius may have just been making a joke and not approving Paxil as I finalized my post. However I firmly believe in transparency so when people in OOC asked if the blob was admin spawned I told OOC that yes, it was admin spawned, and that it was buffed by the admin which spawned. However I did get it wrong about how much it was buffed which is my fault. I should have kept quiet on the amount until I was certain on it and I apologize for that.
To conclude on reasons why I didn't yell at Paxil for it is because I was uncertain on how much they buffed the blob (and when I was somewhat certain I went to fix it, but the blob fixed itself) I did question them on it and that is what led me to look at the admin logs to see what led up to this. I don't want to yell at someone when I don't know the situation, it could be that the round did in fact need to end for a valid reason. I then discovered that Paxil had gotten approval from Jimmius (or what I thought was approval, although it may just be Jimmius's tactic approval but I thought it was overt approval at the time) and I'm not able to overrule a headmin. Instead I tried to gather a full picture of what had happened so I could bring it up with a different headmin and I was considering making a complaint so this could be handled in a transparent manner and the incident had already happened.
tl;dr: Other admins were busy training an AC, I arrived at the end of the incident, saw something I disagreed with and thought it was headmin approved. It's taken me several hours to fully figure it out and even then I am uncertain on if it was headmin approved.
I want to read the funny thread but this is way too long can someone sum it up in a sentence with some emojis for me?
DON'T PLAY SPACE STATION 14 DON'T PLAY SPACE STATION 14 DON'T PLAY SPACE STATION 14 DON'T PLAY SPACE STATION 14 DON'T PLAY SPACE STATION 14
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
Oranges can do whatever they want and the community will lick their feet with pride. Truly cult-like (How did they obtain this much community influence??)
2. Admin Complaints are really just empathy-based. If this was done less maliciously no one would have cared.
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ThanatosRa wrote:My biggest problem is that I can't fix any of this.
Boris wrote:shadowflame either has a brain the size of a pea or one the size of the moon and he's playing 58D chess.
BeeSting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
BebeYoshi wrote:Saltyflame909
Cobby wrote:The trash bin... have you lost your way home anon?
Shadowflame909 wrote:Oranges can do whatever they want and the community will lick their feet with pride. Truly cult-like (How did they obtain this much community influence??)
If u dont kiss his butt he’ll come to your house at 2:42 am and nerf your dog
kieth4 wrote:
infrequently shitting yourself is fine imo
There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am
Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
ever heard of "Pre-emptive nerfing" buddy? they already got cha
kieth4 wrote:
infrequently shitting yourself is fine imo
There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am
Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
Shaps-cloud wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am
May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
Shaps-cloud wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am
May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
wesoda25 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:02 am
Qbmax32 is quite literally one of the dumbest individuals I have ever had the misfortune of coming into contact with. He has zero redeemable traits, and honestly I have to suppress my gag reflex every time he shows up in a conversation.
Malkraz wrote:YES
DRINK THE PISS QB
angelstarri wrote:qbmax is a retard
imsxz wrote:mythic please stop you’ve hit rock bottom and you KEEP DIGGING
deedubya wrote:I'll defend to the death your right to scream "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" on a constant basis, but I'll also equally defend the right of people to call you a fuckin' pillock for doing it.
datorangebottle wrote:what, not having to act like customer service in a volunteer customer service position?
Here's a rebuttal: you're literally in a customer service slash celebrity position. Volunteer or not.
Malkraz wrote:can you stop posting this shit
Nalzul wrote:Fuck Blob (can you imagine how hot it would be to be gangbanged by a bunch of blobbernauts, the blob, and spores)
Wyzack wrote:qbmax your pathetic display of abhorrent burgercraft has brought shame onto the omnivores
Plapatin wrote:i AM the senate
BONERMASTER wrote:I am a big thinker, and it would only be logical if my character had a big head as well. And glasses. Because only people that think, wear glasses.
feem wrote:i tried to send canisters of urine to the station but ended up turning all oxygen into urine and breaking lavaland and also breathing
Anonmare wrote:Each post in this thread can't settle on what it wants to be, but yet, each one is more cursed than the last.
Beesting12 wrote:please write an apology to this forums, this community, the host, and the internet as a whole for the data storage space you wasted with this complaint.
Vile Beggar wrote:i don't like this thread
imsxz wrote:nervore
FantasticFwoosh wrote:I will whisper sweet nothings that will confuse and perhaps scare you a little, but enhance the experience no-less.
afelinidisfinetoo wrote:By the way, the person who posted that catgirl porn on the github page was me. If anyone wants my private stash just PM me
Nervere wrote:Anything for a femoid.....
Qbopper wrote:I'm a dumb poopy butthead
CitrusGender wrote:god i love it when people feed me my own fried legs
Swept wrote:Also I don't think goofball signal boosting this shit on Plebbit did Paxil any favors lol
I propose to bad all r/ss13 posters
I propose to good all non-r/ss13 posters
I'm a fan of positive encouragement
Super Aggro Crag wrote:This is what u get when u let people into your community
play opus: echo of starsong
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iamgoofball wrote:>admin griefs manuel
>quits to avoid punishment
>not only isn't punished, but headmins claim they did nothing wrong
lmao, and you dipshits keep bothering to make complaints? admins will never ever face punishment for intentional malice against players.
What kind of punishment can actually be given out when they already deadminned themselves (standard punishment for an egregious complaint)? Are you going to ban them after they've already decided they don't want to play on the server?
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iamgoofball wrote:>admin griefs manuel
>quits to avoid punishment
>not only isn't punished, but headmins claim they did nothing wrong
lmao, and you dipshits keep bothering to make complaints? admins will never ever face punishment for intentional malice against players.
What kind of punishment can actually be given out when they already deadminned themselves (standard punishment for an egregious complaint)? Are you going to ban them after they've already decided they don't want to play on the server?
you can't punish someone who leaves, but you can put your foot down on any future grief attempts by other admins who may get inspired by saying that hey, no, this isn't fucking cool and won't be happening again