Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
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Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
I am honestly starting to see less and less sense in keeping 2 communities that are so fundamentally different in how they want to play the game together. Is there even overlap between Terry/Sybil/Basil players and manuel?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Backend logistics and oversight. Also the silent majority and the vocal minority.
There are plenty of people that find reasons to enjoy both and enjoy having access to the combined resources/tools/administration/codebase that TG provides.
If someone didn't like what was offered from the 'regular and MRP servers' or at least one of them its not like they couldn't find another community/environment.
There are plenty of people that find reasons to enjoy both and enjoy having access to the combined resources/tools/administration/codebase that TG provides.
If someone didn't like what was offered from the 'regular and MRP servers' or at least one of them its not like they couldn't find another community/environment.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Dont understand this argument. What are you losing by a server existing with a different playstyle than you? Do you want manuel destroyed so you can have a 4th lrp server to split the playerbase even more so you can bitch more about how inactive Terrsybasil are? We have a server running a completely different codebase and no one bitches about the necessity of seperating TGMC from the community. Seems like an argument by a bunch of autismals mad people have fun different. "Oh the admins on manuel make bad decisions" so u want them to come to Terrsybasil and make bad decisions there too? Seriously man whats the DEALIO
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Manuel being on the same codebase is actually one of the problems, what works for lrp doesn't work for mrp. Manuel players are so different and everything we do has to be specially catered to them. I have no problem with TGMC because they don't pretend to be the same server. Manuel being the same server is basically a facade to begin with for a community that is already virtually completely split.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:03 pm Dont understand this argument. What are you losing by a server existing with a different playstyle than you? Do you want manuel destroyed so you can have a 4th lrp server to split the playerbase even more so you can bitch more about how inactive Terrsybasil are? We have a server running a completely different codebase and no one bitches about the necessity of seperating TGMC from the community. Seems like an argument by a bunch of autismals mad people have fun different. "Oh the admins on manuel make bad decisions" so u want them to come to Terrsybasil and make bad decisions there too? Seriously man whats the DEALIO
Also don't insult people in your comments sweetpops.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
I'm not sure what feature or change you're complaining about, but skill issue. Features that don't work well on MRP also don't really work well on LRP.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Name these features that are negatively impacting your wordlessly m1ing greyjumpsuited men then.CPTANT wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:31 pmManuel being on the same codebase is actually one of the problems, what works for lrp doesn't work for mrp. Manuel players are so different and everything we do has to be specially catered to them. I have no problem with TGMC because they don't pretend to be the same server. Manuel being the same server is basically a facade to begin with for a community that is already virtually completely split.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:03 pm Dont understand this argument. What are you losing by a server existing with a different playstyle than you? Do you want manuel destroyed so you can have a 4th lrp server to split the playerbase even more so you can bitch more about how inactive Terrsybasil are? We have a server running a completely different codebase and no one bitches about the necessity of seperating TGMC from the community. Seems like an argument by a bunch of autismals mad people have fun different. "Oh the admins on manuel make bad decisions" so u want them to come to Terrsybasil and make bad decisions there too? Seriously man whats the DEALIO
Also don't insult people in your comments sweetpops.
Are you going to bitch about balance changes the coders are making and blame manuel for it? Because coders have made shitty balance decisions since the dawn of fucking time before we even had a mrp server and they will continue to do so.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
They do overlap with each other, actually.
My proof? Server wide events, crossover events, charity events, and that cool winter ball that happened a year ago. The communities do have some moments where they merge together and honestly they have some things in common; they all play TG and they all want to have fun. Don’t try to separate a seemingly different community from where it originates
My proof? Server wide events, crossover events, charity events, and that cool winter ball that happened a year ago. The communities do have some moments where they merge together and honestly they have some things in common; they all play TG and they all want to have fun. Don’t try to separate a seemingly different community from where it originates
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
The coding team doesn't target a specific server, but a specific ideal. There's a reason we're one of the most ubiquitious SS13 codebases.CPTANT wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:31 pm Manuel being on the same codebase is actually one of the problems, what works for lrp doesn't work for mrp. Manuel players are so different and everything we do has to be specially catered to them. I have no problem with TGMC because they don't pretend to be the same server. Manuel being the same server is basically a facade to begin with for a community that is already virtually completely split.
When merging a PR we're not thinking "what about Manuel?" or "what about Terry?" - We're just thinking "Does this move towards our goals?"
Let's be real. The average Sybil or Bagil player could probably go to Manuel and the only thing they'd notice is more nonhumans, fewer tiders and less team deathmatch. There's honestly not much difference beyond that.
Go play it. Your first reaction will be "wow, this is MRP?" and your second reaction will be "feels sorta like LRP".
At its best Manuel is classic "LRP plus" - Less tide, less murderbone, more opportunities to RP, but no real increase in RP quality when you find it.
At its worst it's presided over by some admins that birth a cactus when an antag so much as sneezes on someone without at least three objectives permitting them to do so.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
An assertion made, neither with any evidence to back up that this "is a problem", or any proposal of what to do about it.
And to answer the only solid part of the OP, yes, there are players who play LRP and MRP.
And to answer the only solid part of the OP, yes, there are players who play LRP and MRP.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
I agree with TimberpoesTimberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:44 pmThe coding team doesn't target a specific server, but a specific ideal. There's a reason we're one of the most ubiquitious SS13 codebases.CPTANT wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:31 pm Manuel being on the same codebase is actually one of the problems, what works for lrp doesn't work for mrp. Manuel players are so different and everything we do has to be specially catered to them. I have no problem with TGMC because they don't pretend to be the same server. Manuel being the same server is basically a facade to begin with for a community that is already virtually completely split.
When merging a PR we're not thinking "what about Manuel?" or "what about Terry?" - We're just thinking "Does this move towards our goals?"
Let's be real. The average Sybil or Bagil player could probably go to Manuel and the only thing they'd notice is more nonhumans, fewer tiders and less team deathmatch. There's honestly not much difference beyond that.
Go play it. Your first reaction will be "wow, this is MRP?" and your second reaction will be "feels sorta like LRP".
At its best Manuel is classic "LRP plus" - Less tide, less murderbone, more opportunities to RP, but no real increase in RP quality when you find it.
At its worst it's presided over by some admins that birth a cactus when an antag so much as sneezes on someone without at least three objectives permitting them to do so.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
I did not make an assertion, I asked a question.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
See:
CPTANT wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:31 pm Manuel being on the same codebase is actually one of the problems, what works for lrp doesn't work for mrp. Manuel players are so different and everything we do has to be specially catered to them. I have no problem with TGMC because they don't pretend to be the same server. Manuel being the same server is basically a facade to begin with for a community that is already virtually completely split.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Has yet to provide examples of how allegedly "coders catering to manuel" has negatively impacted his server of choice.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
You are playing SS13. That's why they are the same. Isn't it obvious?
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Manuel rules as it is. A reason why I love Manuel is because of how fucking chaotic it is, if Manuel was more serious in its roleplay I'd probably stop playing it.
I also don't see the harm in keeping the lrp and mrp servers together, sometimes you want to be even more of a shitter than usual and you jump over and do a few rounds on sybil, besides the fact that the clash between mrp and lrp in events like April fools / Toolbox tournament is just fun to watch
I also don't see the harm in keeping the lrp and mrp servers together, sometimes you want to be even more of a shitter than usual and you jump over and do a few rounds on sybil, besides the fact that the clash between mrp and lrp in events like April fools / Toolbox tournament is just fun to watch
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
I agree with this post at this point. There is no reason to keep them with the other three servers. As we can see by NikNak's recent (amazing) graph. Manuel players desperately want to be "Horny" and commit "ERP". They should split and make their own erp server, it's quite simple really.
They've had the reputation as the horniest server for a long time and it's great to have it written down in statistics finally.
God bless the future of and independent Manuel -Roleplay server- 18+ Adult rp/Action server for mature rugged souls.
They've had the reputation as the horniest server for a long time and it's great to have it written down in statistics finally.
God bless the future of and independent Manuel -Roleplay server- 18+ Adult rp/Action server for mature rugged souls.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
containment serverkieth4 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:20 pm I agree with this post at this point. There is no reason to keep them with the other three servers. As we can see by NikNak's recent (amazing) graph. Manuel players desperately want to be "Horny" and commit "ERP". They should split and make their own erp server, it's quite simple really.
They've had the reputation as the horniest server for a long time and it's great to have it written down in statistics finally.
God bless the future of and independent Manuel -Roleplay server- 18+ Adult rp/Action server for mature rugged souls.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
If a Manuel ERP server was created I would just quit SS13 and end it allkieth4 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:20 pm I agree with this post at this point. There is no reason to keep them with the other three servers. As we can see by NikNak's recent (amazing) graph. Manuel players desperately want to be "Horny" and commit "ERP". They should split and make their own erp server, it's quite simple really.
They've had the reputation as the horniest server for a long time and it's great to have it written down in statistics finally.
God bless the future of and independent Manuel -Roleplay server- 18+ Adult rp/Action server for mature rugged souls.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
we HRP vorestation now
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
iirc bee tried seperating their mrp and lrp codebases and they stopped because 99% of the PRs just got ported over back and forth and it was a massive headache and made it impossible for any coding to get done
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Is Manuel chaotic now? Last time I was on (~April) I got so fed up with how boring and hugboxy it was I decided to resume playing on Sybil for the first time in years.TheSmallBlue wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:10 pm Manuel rules as it is. A reason why I love Manuel is because of how fucking chaotic it is, if Manuel was more serious in its roleplay I'd probably stop playing it.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
it varies from round to roundFarquaar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 12:38 amIs Manuel chaotic now? Last time I was on (~April) I got so fed up with how boring and hugboxy it was I decided to resume playing on Sybil for the first time in years.TheSmallBlue wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:10 pm Manuel rules as it is. A reason why I love Manuel is because of how fucking chaotic it is, if Manuel was more serious in its roleplay I'd probably stop playing it.
had a round a few days ago where the captain rolled obsession and began a one man war against the mime and the security team, got kinda hectic
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
I'd actually be really interested in getting some insights in how things went with Bee and their whole multi server adventure.CoffeeDragon16 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:36 pm iirc bee tried seperating their mrp and lrp codebases and they stopped because 99% of the PRs just got ported over back and forth and it was a massive headache and made it impossible for any coding to get done
I just remember it being a really rocky to get where they are now, which to me looks like a really great place with what they offer.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Genuinely don't see the issue here.
Manuel - It's literally a server in which you probably speak more than usual and explain your actions, whilst the Janitor does their job and people might bribe the lawyer. And people don't immediately zerg-rush the armoury over the slighest thing.
Hardly a huge change in the mechanics.
Manuel - It's literally a server in which you probably speak more than usual and explain your actions, whilst the Janitor does their job and people might bribe the lawyer. And people don't immediately zerg-rush the armoury over the slighest thing.
Hardly a huge change in the mechanics.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Why is it that every time I've seen you post in the last two weeks it's been the most awful takes possible
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
You were that annoyed by me saying admins shouldn't threaten people with bans for throwing a pie or that they shouldn't declare them horrible scum for not agreeing an an Ahelp?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Good question. Seemed like he was addressing me, but I don't think I've had any 'most awful takes possible'. So I assume it's the OP.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
But even OP hasn't had "the worst takes possible". He just seems to be pretty mad about the recent pie-grief note appeal that literally everybody else thought was stupid too.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
CPTANT.
No, I'm annoyed that you're somehow so incensed that an admin made a ban about someone doing something silly that you felt the need to open two policy discussions about it, because god forbid an admin make a mistake.
Also, this take just fucking sucks and reeks of "I don't like Manuel so everyone who plays there shouldn't be in the community at all".
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
You seem supremely bitter about these things being actually discussed instead of setting a very dubious precedent. Such incidents are just triggers for trends that have been going on much longer in the way what constitutes grief gets stricter and stricter and this was the 3rd instance of admins dubiously labelling a conversation as hostile. And I did not make an admin complaint, I made a policy discussion so these things are clear for everyone.
I just feel the mindset of the two communities is fundamentally different. It does not make sense to me to have things like policy discussion combined when there is little overlap left.Also, this take just fucking sucks and reeks of "I don't like Manuel so everyone who plays there shouldn't be in the community at all".
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
You cant leave the tgstation polycule
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
His takes were bad before this, you're just noticing now.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Yawn.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:26 amHis takes were bad before this, you're just noticing now.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
CPTANT wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:34 am CPTANT, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
This is straight up dumb and will never happen. Who'll maintain the new codebase and community? You?
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Still havent answered my fucking question you conniving cum cretin
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Okay, that's the best insult I've heard this week.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:00 am Still havent answered my fucking question you conniving cum cretin
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Sweetpops, you lost the right to an answer when you started throwing insults.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:00 am Still havent answered my fucking question you conniving cum cretin
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Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
I feel that heretic sacrificing has been made non lethal specifically to cater to mrp wishes, as gibbing was deemed murderboning.Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:44 pmThe coding team doesn't target a specific server, but a specific ideal. There's a reason we're one of the most ubiquitious SS13 codebases.CPTANT wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:31 pm Manuel being on the same codebase is actually one of the problems, what works for lrp doesn't work for mrp. Manuel players are so different and everything we do has to be specially catered to them. I have no problem with TGMC because they don't pretend to be the same server. Manuel being the same server is basically a facade to begin with for a community that is already virtually completely split.
When merging a PR we're not thinking "what about Manuel?" or "what about Terry?" - We're just thinking "Does this move towards our goals?"
Let's be real. The average Sybil or Bagil player could probably go to Manuel and the only thing they'd notice is more nonhumans, fewer tiders and less team deathmatch. There's honestly not much difference beyond that.
Go play it. Your first reaction will be "wow, this is MRP?" and your second reaction will be "feels sorta like LRP".
At its best Manuel is classic "LRP plus" - Less tide, less murderbone, more opportunities to RP, but no real increase in RP quality when you find it.
At its worst it's presided over by some admins that birth a cactus when an antag so much as sneezes on someone without at least three objectives permitting them to do so.
Quote from the mrp heretic removal thread:
And not long after heretics were nerfed to not gib any more.We've agreed to remove heretic from MRP for the time being due to numerous conflicts with the RP ruleset as outlined here, we may reconsider this if code changes occur that cause heretics to better mesh with the RP ruleset.
I also feel manual has so much specific policy that a subforum for it would be a good idea though.
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Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Wordlessly blocking someone after just saying their takes are shit without explanation (More so to the supposed previous "shit takes" than this topic) is a rather disappointing response from a headmin. It does not give me confidence that a good faith effort is made to look at the topics presented in the policy discussion forum.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:38 amCPTANT wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:34 am CPTANT, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
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Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
So you have a controversial opinion and refuse to defend it when asked to clarify what you mean because you ghosted the thread when it turns out a lot of people think your stance is silly until vekter quoted you and you tried to change the subject. You're a chickenshit booger ass moist chair-having slob. I hope every game update steals more of your enjoyment from you.CPTANT wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:13 pmSweetpops, you lost the right to an answer when you started throwing insults.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:00 am Still havent answered my fucking question you conniving cum cretin
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
To be fair, if he hadn't opened a policy thread on it the appealer never would've asked for headmin review. Which is pretty important when the note is as bad as this one was. They quite literally said they only wanted to reopen their appeal because of the recent discussion in the policythread.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Craig, why would I ever seriously engage with someone just randomly shit flinging like you?Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:27 pmSo you have a controversial opinion and refuse to defend it when asked to clarify what you mean because you ghosted the thread when it turns out a lot of people think your stance is silly until vekter quoted you and you tried to change the subject. You're a chickenshit booger ass moist chair-having slob. I hope every game update steals more of your enjoyment from you.CPTANT wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:13 pmSweetpops, you lost the right to an answer when you started throwing insults.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:00 am Still havent answered my fucking question you conniving cum cretin
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with discussion.
No one has to agree with each other or the OP.
But hot damn there is some seriously anti-social commentary floating around in here.
Some of y'all acting like this dude just danced on your mothers grave.
No one has to agree with each other or the OP.
But hot damn there is some seriously anti-social commentary floating around in here.
Some of y'all acting like this dude just danced on your mothers grave.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Because there has been a series of useless penis polishers like this fucking mork who keep trying to get the server i like shut down because people there play differently than what they like, which is fucking yaoi ass baby shenanigans.Misdoubtful wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:13 pm There is absolutely nothing wrong with discussion.
No one has to agree with each other or the OP.
But hot damn there is some seriously anti-social commentary floating around in here.
Some of y'all acting like this dude just danced on your mothers grave.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
I rest safely knowing that it will not be happening for the very foreseeable future tbh. Even the Campbell ghost town is still floating around, and thats an actually dead server, if people are looking for an external indicator of the state of things. Its kind of a rinse and repeat of this question getting asked every few months and getting answered over and over it feels like.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
Misdoubtful wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:13 pm There is absolutely nothing wrong with discussion.
No one has to agree with each other or the OP.
But hot damn there is some seriously anti-social commentary floating around in here.
Some of y'all acting like this dude just danced on your mothers grave.
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Re: Why are Terry/Sybil/Basil and Manuel together?
I have never done a Manuel, being a bagil-dweller. Would I get banned for doing a slipthrower in medical? (Flamethrower full of water vapor to make a slip 'n slide.)
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