Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
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Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
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I can’t say how stupid this idea is. Just wait out your ban idiot
I can’t say how stupid this idea is. Just wait out your ban idiot
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
just post in the fucking policy discussion thread why the fuck do we need a peanut thread for this
im gay (and also play the moth “bugger”)
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
I don't get the point of this
If it's like a 3-day ban at best you can just wait it out or raise enough hell that the headmins are forced to take a look at it if it's really that bad. Even then you lose time served.
If it's a month/multi month ban then this changes essentially nothing except you also lose time served.
Wait this idea is even worse than that. What the fuck. I fully agree that headmins should be faster to take a look at a ban if it's needing to be resolved and make a quick ruling if it's a fairly obvious "admin/player is in the wrong, overruled/maintained" but this isn't the way to do it.
If it's like a 3-day ban at best you can just wait it out or raise enough hell that the headmins are forced to take a look at it if it's really that bad. Even then you lose time served.
If it's a month/multi month ban then this changes essentially nothing except you also lose time served.
Wait this idea is even worse than that. What the fuck. I fully agree that headmins should be faster to take a look at a ban if it's needing to be resolved and make a quick ruling if it's a fairly obvious "admin/player is in the wrong, overruled/maintained" but this isn't the way to do it.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Players club vultures so starved for """EPIC DRAMA"""" that they're making peanuts for fucking policy discussion threads and TGMC bans
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Why the hell are you making a peanut for a policy discussion thread? Just voice your opinion on the thread itself.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
So your contribution was of low quality enough quality to not post in the actual thread, but instead of thinking "maybe I shouldn't say anything" you decided to make a peanut thread?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
That's a good way to put it. His contribution can be summed up as "just let people abuse you even when you're right", and then calling you an idiot for even considering disagreeing with that notion.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Bro you’re so fucking corny.
I made this thread to laugh at people like you lmao
“Let people abuse you even if you’re right”
Motherfucker if you get put into time out by an admin for being a shit it was because you were being a shit. Go outside and touch some grass for Christs sake. If you absolutely must get your spaceman fix may I recommend Splurt or Hippiestation you dopamine junky.
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
You can laugh at the people who are right all you want, it doesn't make you any less wrong.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:22 pm I made this thread to laugh at people like you lmao
Motherfucker if you get put into time out by an admin for being a shit it was because you were being a shit.
Your last paragraph might just be one of the dumbest I've ever read on this entire forum. Implicit in your argument is the premise that admins are perfect and never make mistakes. I don't need to tell anyone with a pair of eyes how wrong that is.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Nono be nice to Adam, the player really did throw that pie!ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:24 pmYou can laugh at the people who are right all you want, it doesn't make you any less wrong.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:22 pm I made this thread to laugh at people like you lmao
Motherfucker if you get put into time out by an admin for being a shit it was because you were being a shit.
Your last paragraph might just be one of the dumbest I've ever read on this entire forum. Implicit in your argument is the premise that admins are perfect and never make mistakes. I don't need to tell anyone with a pair of eyes how wrong that is.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
This is why I made a peanut thread, so I can bully you for being pants on head retarded without breaking the sanctity of FNR.
Admins are volunteers who genuinely care about the game, simple as that.
If an admin makes a mistake, appeal it. It’s simple as that. They don’t get their rocks off by banning people. The idea was bad and we already have an appeals system in place, all you’re gonna do is make the appeals system slower, and make bans more complicated.
Enjoy your break from the game, playing is a privilege not a right, and your want to be a shitter doesn’t necessitate what would amount to the total bog down of the appeals system.
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
> so I can bully you
Global forum rules still apply, seemingly unbeknownst to you.
> No admin powertrips, ever
How can you make claims like this and still have the nerve to call other people retarded?
> playing is a privilege not a right
Bullshit. Not having your access to a public server unfairly restricted is a reasonable expectation.
> [babyrage at the end]
Literally nothing would change about the appeals system, only the time at which the original ban is carried out (before or after an unsuccessful appeal).
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Completely disagree with making a peanut thread about this. Triangulating fellow forum posters over an opinion is total dogshit, don't do it, stop doing it. Everybody has the right to their opinion, and unlike ban appeals, you can actually post freely in policy, there is no justification for creating this thread other than dogpiling and abusing someone because you didn't like their idea, it just makes you look like a total POS.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Good take Mr. BONERMASTER.BONERMASTER wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:53 pm Completely disagree with making a peanut thread about this. Triangulating fellow forum posters over an opinion is total dogshit, don't do it, stop doing it. Everybody has the right to their opinion, and unlike ban appeals, you can actually post freely in policy, there is no justification for creating this thread other than dogpiling and abusing someone because you didn't like their idea, it just makes you look like a total POS.
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If you want to insult someone but you're worried about breaking forum rules, maybe you shouldn't do it?Adam Klein wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:35 pm This is why I made a peanut thread, so I can bully you for being pants on head retarded without breaking the sanctity of FNR.
It keeps getting worse!?
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Counterpoint, you won't get warned for being off-topic in the player's club.BONERMASTER wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:53 pm Completely disagree with making a peanut thread about this. Triangulating fellow forum posters over an opinion is total dogshit, don't do it, stop doing it. Everybody has the right to their opinion, and unlike ban appeals, you can actually post freely in policy, there is no justification for creating this thread other than dogpiling and abusing someone because you didn't like their idea, it just makes you look like a total POS.
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Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
uh
you know tgstation 13 isnt like
a public service right
mso doesnt get federal funds to run the servers :(
it's a server hosted by one dude and coded for by volunteers
nobody has any "rights" to play here - and if you disagree, you're always free to try your own server
tg's managed to stay fairly stable (as in, not crashing and burning within 2-3 years) by occasionally dropping the hammer in ways that might be viewed as "1984" on people who're ultimately toxic to the serverbase
with a community like this, having the occasional bout of heavy-handed moderation is practically required if you don't want to crash and burn
which is why most major ss13 communities either have that or need to make big attempts to draw in more users (or they crash and burn within 2-3 years)
MSO trusts the headmins, who trust the administrative team to handle bans fairly and without bias, while administrating for the best of the server and community as a whole
if you can't accept that, this might not be the best server for you - but it's the way it is, and I think it's the way it has to be for a community of this scale here
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Let's make federal funding a reality, start a petition. They made one to build the death star, surely we can make one to fund a little pastime that some spessmen enjoy.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
gl!!
when mso starts getting checks from the us govt to run ss13 you can start arguing abt how ss13 is a right
it'll let him stop worrying about patreon funding at the very least
when mso starts getting checks from the us govt to run ss13 you can start arguing abt how ss13 is a right
it'll let him stop worrying about patreon funding at the very least
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Tl;dr
local bald malder thinks ss13 is a constitutional right
can't handle the time don't do the crime.
or, you know, appeal and wordsmith your way out of issues like the average player.
that requires having charisma higher than a mouldy sack of compost though, which you lack.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
The amount of people that think that if someone makes an appeal they MUST be quilty anyway in this thread is quite high.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
I truly think you are quilty until proven quinocent.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Not all rights are constitutional rights, you actual troll. Go back to griefing FOB - or better, don't.LoveMirror wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:13 pmTl;dr
local bald malder thinks ss13 is a constitutional right
can't handle the time don't do the crime.
or, you know, appeal and wordsmith your way out of issues like the average player.
that requires having charisma higher than a mouldy sack of compost though, which you lack.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Honestly, I don’t care if you’re guilty or innocent. That’s for FNR to decide.
If an admin wants to give you a break from the game for a week enjoy your time outside and live life, don’t bitch about it here, if you think the ban was improper appeal it, and then admin complain it.
You have no right to be here at all, none of us do. This Is the Host’s server and if he wants to 1984 the entire community he can.
Be grateful our supreme weed emperor even allows for people to appeal bans and recommend policy. This is possibly the most transparent Moderation team in ss13.
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
There is no community without the players. If he bans everyone, he will be king of the ashes. There's a reason tgstation is the best SS13 server, and that reason is the set of principles by which MSO runs this server. Talking about how he could destroy the community is irrelevant when he has clearly chosen not to, and when we speak about policy we do it within this framework.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:44 pm [insert gross mischaracterisation of words here to mock the other guy]
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Okay, yes MSO and the admin team do a good job, I don’t see how this makes the original idea not dogshit.ekaterina wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:58 pmThere is no community without the players. If he bans everyone, he will be king of the ashes. There's a reason tgstation is the best SS13 server, and that reason is the set of principles by which MSO runs this server. Talking about how he could destroy the community is irrelevant when he has clearly chosen not to, and when we speak about policy we do it within this framework.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:44 pm [insert gross mischaracterisation of words here to mock the other guy]
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
You do realize I got unbanned pretty much instantly, right?
Stop whining and pushing this policy idea. It's shit.
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Proof only the mentally ill lurk playerclub.
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Bold of you to assume that anyone here is allowed within 200ft of the opposite (or the same) sex without a SWAT team immediately rope-dropping on top of them.Timberpoes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:14 am
Since I assume everyone is getting particularly riled up today as they boredpost while eagerly awaiting their annual sexual activity of choice with their significant/significantly paid other:
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Re: Local man wants to abuse Judicial protections policynut
Guys I can't afford to post bail
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