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no i get very autistic about the things i like and i'm very particular
TheRex9001 wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 5:43 am Name sucks, this deserves the note and is just in general rule 1 stuff. Imagine being the mapper behind one of these stations thinking you can finally go play the game and have some fun without being bombarded by "I hate X" and then the fucking nukie called "FUCK TRAM FUCK NORTHSTAR FUCK BIRDSHIT" shows up. That must fucking suck, keep the note
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
Apologies for the forbidden double post, but this is an open source game, and no one is entitled to play here. Same goes for coders, if you enforce your map on people, and a vocal minority don’t like it. Learn to cope or ignore them. This is an open source project, so buck up sonny and not let them get to you, or log off. No one deserves special treatment because of how much they contribute or admin. We are all equal.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 7:27 amIt's not protecting the map, it's protecting the creator of the map, who is, or at least was, a player before getting harrassed out of the game by things like this. To you, it's a lighthearted "hahaha get it guys i'm joking about not liking the map", to them, it's yet another slap in the face they've received for dedicating a large amount of their time to a project.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:09 am Rule 1 doesn't apply to antagonists like nukies who are sent to blow everyone up, nor is it there to protect a non-sentient entity like a map.
Rule 4 affords no out of character protections. You can't bully someone in OOC just because you're an antagonist in the round, as an example. Setting a nukie name is an OOC act. Your character doesn't choose their family name at the start of their mission; you're not interacting with a console, or saying something, to change your name. It's a completely OOC prompt with very few, mostly non-impactful IC consequences.
Setting your nukie name to FUCK TRAM ALL MY HOMIES HATE TRAM isn't going to do much beyond annoy players who like tram. You aren't rewarded for or encouraged to have a stupid or funny name.
IMO it ultimately depends on how far you go. It's very contextual.Indie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:38 am On topic about the actual peanut, if you can get a note for a name like that, can you get a note for saying you don't like a map in OOC since you're technically being a dick to the mapper who made it? If you say you don't like a new feature/removal in OOC, is that a rule violation to the coder who made the change? If those examples don't count, why does it count for nuclear operative names? Where is the line in the sand drawn differently? Sorry to play the devil's advocate here, but I'm curious on the justification.
If you go on a full crag-tier rant about how the coders are dung-guzzling wankers that eat raw alligator cocks for breakfast because they removed nanites, I could see an admin muting OOC and giving you a stern talking to. "I don't like <X map>" is probably fine. going into detail is probably fine. it's when you're abusive or excessive about it that it becomes a harassment issue. Expletives generally don't lend themselves well to constructive criticism.
When you take it into a nukie name, you're taking OOC (your opinion of the map) into IC(your character's last name).
>someone says they struggle with people verbally abusing them/their work on a regular basis
>proceeds to use weird server tribalism & rib them
I don't care if this is serious or not, the timing seems real off. You kinda suck.
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
To be another positive voice speaking up, I adore the map. I loved it, back in the older days, and I love the changes made to it to make it suit /tg/. I'm always excited to see it pop up in the map vote and if I'm being perfectly honest, I've not voted for anything else when it's been in the list. People just don't like it because it's not the same square map like Meta or Delta. If they actually played on it a couple times, they'd know where everything is.Cheshify wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 5:02 am It is everywhere. I cannot go anywhere in the community because I'm told straight to my face that the project I care about is shit without any constructive feedback behind it. I literally do not want to play the game, admin, or contribute because it feels like feeding a pack of coyotes that'll just gnaw at my arm.
I distinctly remember that you removed my gitban without even an apology from me, because I promised that even if I meant what I said to/about you, I just wouldn't do it again.oranges wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 9:29 am no no, you're confused, i'm not upset that people hate me, I don't like that they hate people like chesify who are literally super nice and do nothing to them but try to contribute their passion.
because that's exactly what allows the situation where I am the headcoder despite all of my negative flaws.
The idea of "grow thicker skin" is so easy to say when you're not the one in the hotbox.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:03 pm Apologies for the forbidden double post, but this is an open source game, and no one is entitled to play here. Same goes for coders, if you enforce your map on people, and a vocal minority don’t like it. Learn to cope or ignore them. This is an open source project, so buck up sonny and not let them get to you, or log off. No one deserves special treatment because of how much they contribute or admin. We are all equal.
What a silly little thing to say.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 1:53 pmTheRex9001 wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 5:43 am Name sucks, this deserves the note and is just in general rule 1 stuff. Imagine being the mapper behind one of these stations thinking you can finally go play the game and have some fun without being bombarded by "I hate X" and then the fucking nukie called "FUCK TRAM FUCK NORTHSTAR FUCK BIRDSHIT" shows up. That must fucking suck, keep the note
Hot take, but if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. autists are going to autisticly screech about changes they don’t like. If you can’t handle that as a coder, don’t code for an open source game where your changes will be forced on everyone.
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
No, it'd be handled like anything else - just saying you don't like it or voicing your opinion isn't against the rules, but admins reserve the right to ask you to knock it off if you're being obnoxious about it.Indie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:38 am On topic about the actual peanut, if you can get a note for a name like that, can you get a note for saying you don't like a map in OOC since you're technically being a dick to the mapper who made it? If you say you don't like a new feature/removal in OOC, is that a rule violation to the coder who made the change? If those examples don't count, why does it count for nuclear operative names? Where is the line in the sand drawn differently? Sorry to play the devil's advocate here, but I'm curious on the justification.
My experience on the forums got a lot better when I added boot to my ignore list. Just saying.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:03 pm Apologies for the forbidden double post, but this is an open source game, and no one is entitled to play here. Same goes for coders, if you enforce your map on people, and a vocal minority don’t like it. Learn to cope or ignore them. This is an open source project, so buck up sonny and not let them get to you, or log off. No one deserves special treatment because of how much they contribute or admin. We are all equal.
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
it's just bad vibes broAdam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 1:53 pmTheRex9001 wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 5:43 am Name sucks, this deserves the note and is just in general rule 1 stuff. Imagine being the mapper behind one of these stations thinking you can finally go play the game and have some fun without being bombarded by "I hate X" and then the fucking nukie called "FUCK TRAM FUCK NORTHSTAR FUCK BIRDSHIT" shows up. That must fucking suck, keep the note
Hot take, but if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. autists are going to autisticly screech about changes they don’t like. If you can’t handle that as a coder, don’t code for an open source game where your changes will be forced on everyone.
except, we arent equal, all we do is PLAY here, and i'm on team coderbus for this one.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:03 pmApologies for the forbidden double post, but this is an open source game, and no one is entitled to play here. Same goes for coders, if you enforce your map on people, and a vocal minority don’t like it. Learn to cope or ignore them. This is an open source project, so buck up sonny and not let them get to you, or log off. No one deserves special treatment because of how much they contribute or admin. We are all equal.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 7:27 amIt's not protecting the map, it's protecting the creator of the map, who is, or at least was, a player before getting harrassed out of the game by things like this. To you, it's a lighthearted "hahaha get it guys i'm joking about not liking the map", to them, it's yet another slap in the face they've received for dedicating a large amount of their time to a project.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:09 am Rule 1 doesn't apply to antagonists like nukies who are sent to blow everyone up, nor is it there to protect a non-sentient entity like a map.
Rule 4 affords no out of character protections. You can't bully someone in OOC just because you're an antagonist in the round, as an example. Setting a nukie name is an OOC act. Your character doesn't choose their family name at the start of their mission; you're not interacting with a console, or saying something, to change your name. It's a completely OOC prompt with very few, mostly non-impactful IC consequences.
Setting your nukie name to FUCK TRAM ALL MY HOMIES HATE TRAM isn't going to do much beyond annoy players who like tram. You aren't rewarded for or encouraged to have a stupid or funny name.
IMO it ultimately depends on how far you go. It's very contextual.Indie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:38 am On topic about the actual peanut, if you can get a note for a name like that, can you get a note for saying you don't like a map in OOC since you're technically being a dick to the mapper who made it? If you say you don't like a new feature/removal in OOC, is that a rule violation to the coder who made the change? If those examples don't count, why does it count for nuclear operative names? Where is the line in the sand drawn differently? Sorry to play the devil's advocate here, but I'm curious on the justification.
If you go on a full crag-tier rant about how the coders are dung-guzzling wankers that eat raw alligator cocks for breakfast because they removed nanites, I could see an admin muting OOC and giving you a stern talking to. "I don't like <X map>" is probably fine. going into detail is probably fine. it's when you're abusive or excessive about it that it becomes a harassment issue. Expletives generally don't lend themselves well to constructive criticism.
When you take it into a nukie name, you're taking OOC (your opinion of the map) into IC(your character's last name).
>someone says they struggle with people verbally abusing them/their work on a regular basis
>proceeds to use weird server tribalism & rib them
I don't care if this is serious or not, the timing seems real off. You kinda suck.
Yes or no question: are nuclear operatives the type of antagonist that would "go ballistic" at things?
The dent in my skull was not prospected for platinum, so I don't believe the hodgepodge.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:56 pmYes or no question: are nuclear operatives the type of antagonist that would "go ballistic" at things?
Big boy followup question (don't strain too hard): if yes, should their name be a valid part of that?
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
The point is, no one is above criticism, and dispite how awful it makes me feel to say, even with how kind Chesh is, they aren’t either. It comes with the territory.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:36 pmexcept, we arent equal, all we do is PLAY here, and i'm on team coderbus for this one.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:03 pmApologies for the forbidden double post, but this is an open source game, and no one is entitled to play here. Same goes for coders, if you enforce your map on people, and a vocal minority don’t like it. Learn to cope or ignore them. This is an open source project, so buck up sonny and not let them get to you, or log off. No one deserves special treatment because of how much they contribute or admin. We are all equal.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 7:27 amIt's not protecting the map, it's protecting the creator of the map, who is, or at least was, a player before getting harrassed out of the game by things like this. To you, it's a lighthearted "hahaha get it guys i'm joking about not liking the map", to them, it's yet another slap in the face they've received for dedicating a large amount of their time to a project.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:09 am Rule 1 doesn't apply to antagonists like nukies who are sent to blow everyone up, nor is it there to protect a non-sentient entity like a map.
Rule 4 affords no out of character protections. You can't bully someone in OOC just because you're an antagonist in the round, as an example. Setting a nukie name is an OOC act. Your character doesn't choose their family name at the start of their mission; you're not interacting with a console, or saying something, to change your name. It's a completely OOC prompt with very few, mostly non-impactful IC consequences.
Setting your nukie name to FUCK TRAM ALL MY HOMIES HATE TRAM isn't going to do much beyond annoy players who like tram. You aren't rewarded for or encouraged to have a stupid or funny name.
IMO it ultimately depends on how far you go. It's very contextual.Indie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:38 am On topic about the actual peanut, if you can get a note for a name like that, can you get a note for saying you don't like a map in OOC since you're technically being a dick to the mapper who made it? If you say you don't like a new feature/removal in OOC, is that a rule violation to the coder who made the change? If those examples don't count, why does it count for nuclear operative names? Where is the line in the sand drawn differently? Sorry to play the devil's advocate here, but I'm curious on the justification.
If you go on a full crag-tier rant about how the coders are dung-guzzling wankers that eat raw alligator cocks for breakfast because they removed nanites, I could see an admin muting OOC and giving you a stern talking to. "I don't like <X map>" is probably fine. going into detail is probably fine. it's when you're abusive or excessive about it that it becomes a harassment issue. Expletives generally don't lend themselves well to constructive criticism.
When you take it into a nukie name, you're taking OOC (your opinion of the map) into IC(your character's last name).
>someone says they struggle with people verbally abusing them/their work on a regular basis
>proceeds to use weird server tribalism & rib them
I don't care if this is serious or not, the timing seems real off. You kinda suck.
can you IMAGINE how many fucking hours chesh put into making northstar, only to, as he described, be attacked on all sides, in game, out of game, discord, etc etc. I don't have to be a game designer or coder to know that that's soul crushing when you put a lot of effort into something only to have a bunch of people scream at you that it sucks
it's absolutely necessary for people like chesh to speak up about how this personally affects him, so that we can take a step back every once in awhile and remind ourselves that we're all just hanging out in a small corner of the internet and that these guys are trying to make it better for us as players
yeah, chesh could get thicker skin, and get over it, but then we'd just have another oranges, and just one of him is enough, thanks
put disco inferno back into buyable shuttles plzkthx
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
there is a fine line between saying what you dont like about a map and being a poopoohead about it. Even something like "why the FUCK is x the way it is?" or "what the HELL did you do to y????" can at the very least invite a conversation. Just being mean with no valuable critique doesn't do anything for anyone though. The issue isnt that criticism happens, but that there is such a large amount that is not helpful in any way (which must be frustrating if your only goal is to improve the map and actually fix the issues)Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 1:53 pm Hot take, but if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. autists are going to autisticly screech about changes they don’t like. If you can’t handle that as a coder, don’t code for an open source game where your changes will be forced on everyone.
While that would be the ideal, we can’t expect all our community members to have that level of decorum as nice as it would be. Everyone here is extremely passionate about this ancient space game and emotions tend to run high.TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:18 pmthere is a fine line between saying what you dont like about a map and being a poopoohead about it. Even something like "why the FUCK is x the way it is?" or "what the HELL did you do to y????" can at the very least invite a conversation. Just being mean with no valuable critique doesn't do anything for anyone though. The issue isnt that criticism happens, but that there is such a large amount that is not helpful in any way (which must be frustrating if your only goal is to improve the map and actually fix the issues)Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 1:53 pm Hot take, but if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. autists are going to autisticly screech about changes they don’t like. If you can’t handle that as a coder, don’t code for an open source game where your changes will be forced on everyone.
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:30 pm If you consider a nukie family name as anything more than half-assed shitposting some guy thought of during the beginning 30 seconds of adrenaline rush after rolling, you are taking this game way too seriously and need to touch grass.
That's my final comment on it.
1) Whether or not the map actually sucks isn't relevant to the conversation, though I'll note that "multi-z is a mistake" is such a weird fucking take, what?iwishforducks wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:37 pm i remember someone talking to chesh about how chemistry was way too small and chesh replied to them that it was on purpose, that departments are meant to be “kilo-sized”. i also remember talking to chesh some months back about the pods all being in one area and how it defeats the entire design of escape pods, but they kept that in i think. im not here to comment on the design of the map- because i haven’t played it. but i want to comment on this sort of weird design mentality that mappers (and coders) seem to have on tg these days. these days, it feels like mappers intentionally try to make their station hostile to play on. tram immediately comes to mind- i mean the tagline is “tram: keeps medical busy”-, and birdshot is intentionally just fucking awful. i have more to say about these two maps but i digress.
maybe it’s a little unfair to lump northstar as one of those “hostile to play on” maps but to be honest the only reason why i have zero interest in it is because i genuinely think multi-z is a mistake and that the game would be better off without it. but anyways im rambling on here. if you’re going to intentionally design your map in a certain way you should probably expect “x sucks” - just stay true to yourself and have a design plan you’re following - it doesn’t help that there’s a headcoder whose job is solely to try to make things as toxic as possible, if they’re not already busy calling strangers “bottoms”
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
But we can because, like what was done here, we have the capability to note or even remove people if they get to the point they are being ugly to other players/developers. We can, at least for tg-facing places like discord/forums/server, absolutely enforce the decorum.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:27 pm While that would be the ideal, we can’t expect all our community members to have that level of decorum as nice as it would be. Everyone here is extremely passionate about this ancient space game and emotions tend to run high.
Players get assmad about changes, and then coders get assmad about players getting mad about changes. At the end of the day though, this is just a game, and nothing here really matters. Just as players have no right to play here, coders should expect no right to
Be able to code here and be completely isolated from the response to their code.
Exactly which is why we have admins that can tell people when they are doing too much. We are also all adults here so if you cant express your opinions and concerns in a way other than "FUCK X REEEE KILL YOURSELF MUH KILO", you could just be quiet or maybe ask someone else to help articulate your point.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:27 pmWhile that would be the ideal, we can’t expect all our community members to have that level of decorum as nice as it would be. Everyone here is extremely passionate about this ancient space game and emotions tend to run high.TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:18 pmthere is a fine line between saying what you dont like about a map and being a poopoohead about it. Even something like "why the FUCK is x the way it is?" or "what the HELL did you do to y????" can at the very least invite a conversation. Just being mean with no valuable critique doesn't do anything for anyone though. The issue isnt that criticism happens, but that there is such a large amount that is not helpful in any way (which must be frustrating if your only goal is to improve the map and actually fix the issues)Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 1:53 pm Hot take, but if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. autists are going to autisticly screech about changes they don’t like. If you can’t handle that as a coder, don’t code for an open source game where your changes will be forced on everyone.
Players get assmad about changes, and then coders get assmad about players getting mad about changes. At the end of the day though, this is just a game, and nothing here really matters. Just as players have no right to play here, coders should expect no right to
Be able to code here and be completely isolated from the response to their code.
i agree on whether or not the map sucks isn't relevant to this conversation. as i said and outlined below:
this is a completely separate conversation but i think multi-z measurably makes the game worse. it's obtuse and niche (you have to press a dedicated key/button to Look Up, and ditto for Look Down. let's not even talk about Move Up/Move Down) and yet it's a central part of the gameplay. the biggest impact multi-z has on rounds is when some greyshit is running up and down the stairs over and over again to avoid capture, or when blobs go for Le Epic Permabrig on icebox. there's no real answer to "how should projectiles work in multi-z combat" and combat suffers because of it. if you can press move up/move down in space you become essentially unhittable.iwishforducks wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:37 pm im not here to comment on the design of the map- because i haven’t played it. but i want to comment on this sort of weird design mentality that mappers (and coders) seem to have on tg these days.
i agree on the latter part: that it's entirely up to the map creator on whether or not they take it into consideration. it's important that map creators have the freewill to make interesting design choices. however, if a designer isn't willing to take things into consideration, the only feedback to give at that point is to say whether or not their vision sucks.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:43 pm 2) If you can be bothered to bitch about how a map sucks, you can be bothered to give actual criticism. "(map) sucks" isn't criticism, it's bullshit noise. "I don't like the chemistry on this map because it's too small for me" is good feedback, but it's up to the creator as to whether or not they take that into consideration.
iwishforducks wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:37 pm if you’re going to intentionally design your map in a certain way you should probably expect “x sucks” - just stay true to yourself and have a design plan you’re following
kieth4 wrote: infrequently shitting yourself is fine imo
There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
good post, but I think there is a difference between a player putting in 100 hours playing and a coder spending 100 hours on a mapAdam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:27 pmWhile that would be the ideal, we can’t expect all our community members to have that level of decorum as nice as it would be. Everyone here is extremely passionate about this ancient space game and emotions tend to run high.TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:18 pmthere is a fine line between saying what you dont like about a map and being a poopoohead about it. Even something like "why the FUCK is x the way it is?" or "what the HELL did you do to y????" can at the very least invite a conversation. Just being mean with no valuable critique doesn't do anything for anyone though. The issue isnt that criticism happens, but that there is such a large amount that is not helpful in any way (which must be frustrating if your only goal is to improve the map and actually fix the issues)Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 1:53 pm Hot take, but if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. autists are going to autisticly screech about changes they don’t like. If you can’t handle that as a coder, don’t code for an open source game where your changes will be forced on everyone.
Players get assmad about changes, and then coders get assmad about players getting mad about changes. At the end of the day though, this is just a game, and nothing here really matters. Just as players have no right to play here, coders should expect no right to
Be able to code here and be completely isolated from the response to their code.
Dropping trow and shitting all over something is not criticism. It's offensive.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:13 pm The point is, no one is above criticism, and dispite how awful it makes me feel to say, even with how kind Chesh is, they aren’t either. It comes with the territory.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
Because no one here is polite enough to answer you:
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
lamos keep making them before i doWineAllWine wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 4:54 pm This is the best peanut title we've had recently (most of them have been crap)
And I believe the major issue is that I think they didn't.
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
And I believe the major issue is that Sinful is wrong regardless.
The only actual rule surrounding this says "try to reasonable" and is still under the purview ofBoot wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:10 pm I'm not a big fan that this note started off with Vekter misunderstanding the current naming policy then post hoc rationalizing it. The fact is that Vekter noted him "mainly" because of something that wasn't even a rule. This should be lifted on these grounds alone.
thoughAdmins [...] can approve or disallow names at their discretion while in-game.
This is the worst kind of take. You can't simply chalk up bad and stupid behaviour to "how it's always been" or else nothing will ever change. You need to make a stand and tell people to shut the fuck up or contribute constructively. If you can't handle that, don't play an open source game where you refuse to make the changes you want to see.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 1:53 pm Hot take, but if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. autists are going to autisticly screech about changes they don’t like. If you can’t handle that as a coder, don’t code for an open source game where your changes will be forced on everyone.
Here's the thing. I ADORE criticism. Criticism means someone is approaching the piece of work and finding a fault with design and I can tackle that in order to improve things. I fucking love improving the map, there's a reason I've put the time I have into it.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:13 pm The point is, no one is above criticism, and dispite how awful it makes me feel to say, even with how kind Chesh is, they aren’t either. It comes with the territory.
Sounds pretty easy then. Just ignore the rabble who have no power over you and keep on doing what you want to do. If you can't handle people not liking what you make in a way you view as "unconstructive" then I would suggest going to a space where only you get to decide who speaks. Personally I would think that would suck because I like what you do so I do ask you to grow up, not out of a sense of being mean or spiteful but because you are going to deal with people who are alot crazier then some random shitters saying "northstar sucks".Cheshify wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:47 pmThis is the worst kind of take. You can't simply chalk up bad and stupid behaviour to "how it's always been" or else nothing will ever change. You need to make a stand and tell people to shut the fuck up or contribute constructively. If you can't handle that, don't play an open source game where you refuse to make the changes you want to see.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 1:53 pm Hot take, but if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. autists are going to autisticly screech about changes they don’t like. If you can’t handle that as a coder, don’t code for an open source game where your changes will be forced on everyone.
why should volunteer coders / mappers have to take weirdos attacking them instead of an admin telling them to knock it off for not giving anything constructiveBoot wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:54 pmSounds pretty easy then. Just ignore the rabble who have no power over you and keep on doing what you want to do. If you can't handle people not liking what you make in a way you view as "unconstructive" then I would suggest going to a space where only you get to decide who speaks. Personally I would think that would suck because I like what you do so I do ask you to grow up, not out of a sense of being mean or spiteful but because you are going to deal with people who are alot crazier then some random shitters saying "northstar sucks".Cheshify wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:47 pmThis is the worst kind of take. You can't simply chalk up bad and stupid behaviour to "how it's always been" or else nothing will ever change. You need to make a stand and tell people to shut the fuck up or contribute constructively. If you can't handle that, don't play an open source game where you refuse to make the changes you want to see.Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 1:53 pm Hot take, but if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. autists are going to autisticly screech about changes they don’t like. If you can’t handle that as a coder, don’t code for an open source game where your changes will be forced on everyone.
I don't want to create a space where saying "I don't like northstar" gets you nuked for not being constructive. We don't do this for anyone else and we've been doing fine.TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 7:09 pmwhy should volunteer coders / mappers have to take weirdos attacking them instead of an admin telling them to knock it off for not giving anything constructiveBoot wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:54 pm Sounds pretty easy then. Just ignore the rabble who have no power over you and keep on doing what you want to do. If you can't handle people not liking what you make in a way you view as "unconstructive" then I would suggest going to a space where only you get to decide who speaks. Personally I would think that would suck because I like what you do so I do ask you to grow up, not out of a sense of being mean or spiteful but because you are going to deal with people who are alot crazier then some random shitters saying "northstar sucks".
There's two options here which are either:
If someone named their nukie team "FUCK BOOT AND FUCK SINFULL" they'd probably get noted for it too im pretty sure, there's no double standard hereBoot wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 7:15 pmI don't want to create a space where saying "I don't like northstar" gets you nuked for not being constructive. We don't do this for anyone else and we've been doing fine.TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 7:09 pmwhy should volunteer coders / mappers have to take weirdos attacking them instead of an admin telling them to knock it off for not giving anything constructiveBoot wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:54 pm Sounds pretty easy then. Just ignore the rabble who have no power over you and keep on doing what you want to do. If you can't handle people not liking what you make in a way you view as "unconstructive" then I would suggest going to a space where only you get to decide who speaks. Personally I would think that would suck because I like what you do so I do ask you to grow up, not out of a sense of being mean or spiteful but because you are going to deal with people who are alot crazier then some random shitters saying "northstar sucks".
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.