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Istoprocent1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:36 pm Baseless claims. I have been to the vault minimum of 38 times, how many suicides?
MrStonedOne wrote:I always read dendy's walls of text
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:21 pm The rules exist to create the biggest possible chance of a cool shift of SS13. They don't exist to allow admins to create the most boring interpretation of SS13.
That's it, that's already the information that MSO put out. MSO has already made his judgement, given the evidence he had. MSO is also not easily convinced, we live by his rules, whether or not people like it. The chance of headmins being an evil cabal tricking MSO into blacklisting two innocent players is absolutely NIL, given his previous actions.
Right? I read this and immediately decided I’m voting them for headmin just so everything can be written like it. If they don’t run I’m writing their name in.BonChoi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:46 pmHow do you just come up with this stuff? I wish I had the mental capacity to write my thoughts out as eloquently as you are able to.dendydoom wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:16 pm -snip-
the reality of the situation is that sinful went to the top of the mountain and got smited by zeus. whether or not his charred remains are left up on display or interred below the earth is an entirely empty gesture at this point that has no actual effect on the outcome of his appeal whatsoever. the only place it has any effect is on MSO's desk, which is where it is.
thehogshotgun wrote:How does having jannies like you, who have more brain tumor than brain benefit the server
it was a phase mom, i'm over it
TBM quite literally did place a permanent ban intended to better explain the blacklist:dendydoom wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:52 pm there'd be no substantial need for the headmins to offer reasons like that to sinful because they didn't ban him. MSO placed him on the blacklist. the most the headmins can do is speculate why MSO might have made that decision or give reasons why they would've banned him in their stead if he wasn't blacklisted. both of these are completely unproductive uses of time that just perpetuate an argument that neither side has the power to change at all.
And Timberpoes later confirmed in the appeal that this permaban was an extension of the blacklist. So if all the headmins can do is speculate on the reason why Sinful got banned, why did they also do this? Is the ban reason here also mere speculation? It really sounds like you're trying to have your cake and eat it too, by going "oh the headmin team had no part in this, this is all MSO's doing" when the headmin team performed an extensive investigation, shared the evidence they found with other admins, and even attempted to clarify MSO's reason for placing the blacklist.Used a private metacord to coordinate harassment and brigading within the ban appeals/players club subforums along with several other players. These actions were taken with admitted bad-faith intention to frustrate and incite burnout in the admin team, and to facilitate malice and drama within the community. Due to your extensive history, and receiving explicit proof of the above actions being your goals, we do not believe you are in this community in good faith or good will.
browns once again got trolled out of a season and the ravens look suspect as ever, sportsball is over
i think these conclusions are the result of the rumor mill spinning. the headmin team reviewed what we needed to, and were lead to the belief that the blacklists applied here were necessary for the health of the server and community. we then passed that consensus onto MSO, who then took time to formulate his own opinion based on the evidence provided, and followed through on it. hope that helps clarify things.GPeckman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:13 pmTBM quite literally did place a permanent ban intended to better explain the blacklist:dendydoom wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:52 pm there'd be no substantial need for the headmins to offer reasons like that to sinful because they didn't ban him. MSO placed him on the blacklist. the most the headmins can do is speculate why MSO might have made that decision or give reasons why they would've banned him in their stead if he wasn't blacklisted. both of these are completely unproductive uses of time that just perpetuate an argument that neither side has the power to change at all.And Timberpoes later confirmed in the appeal that this permaban was an extension of the blacklist. So if all the headmins can do is speculate on the reason why Sinful got banned, why did they also do this? Is the ban reason here also mere speculation? It really sounds like you're trying to have your cake and eat it too, by going "oh the headmin team had no part in this, this is all MSO's doing" when the headmin team performed an extensive investigation, shared the evidence they found with other admins, and even attempted to clarify MSO's reason for placing the blacklist.Used a private metacord to coordinate harassment and brigading within the ban appeals/players club subforums along with several other players. These actions were taken with admitted bad-faith intention to frustrate and incite burnout in the admin team, and to facilitate malice and drama within the community. Due to your extensive history, and receiving explicit proof of the above actions being your goals, we do not believe you are in this community in good faith or good will.
Thanks for the transparency. Rlly appreciate itTheBibleMelts wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:13 pmi think these conclusions are the result of the rumor mill spinning. the headmin team reviewed what we needed to, and were lead to the belief that the blacklists applied here were necessary for the health of the server and community. we then passed that consensus onto MSO, who then took time to formulate his own opinion based on the evidence provided, and followed through on it. hope that helps clarify things.GPeckman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:13 pmTBM quite literally did place a permanent ban intended to better explain the blacklist:dendydoom wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:52 pm there'd be no substantial need for the headmins to offer reasons like that to sinful because they didn't ban him. MSO placed him on the blacklist. the most the headmins can do is speculate why MSO might have made that decision or give reasons why they would've banned him in their stead if he wasn't blacklisted. both of these are completely unproductive uses of time that just perpetuate an argument that neither side has the power to change at all.And Timberpoes later confirmed in the appeal that this permaban was an extension of the blacklist. So if all the headmins can do is speculate on the reason why Sinful got banned, why did they also do this? Is the ban reason here also mere speculation? It really sounds like you're trying to have your cake and eat it too, by going "oh the headmin team had no part in this, this is all MSO's doing" when the headmin team performed an extensive investigation, shared the evidence they found with other admins, and even attempted to clarify MSO's reason for placing the blacklist.Used a private metacord to coordinate harassment and brigading within the ban appeals/players club subforums along with several other players. These actions were taken with admitted bad-faith intention to frustrate and incite burnout in the admin team, and to facilitate malice and drama within the community. Due to your extensive history, and receiving explicit proof of the above actions being your goals, we do not believe you are in this community in good faith or good will.
They wouldn't consider it to begin withdirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:59 pm Considering sinful/pepper played all the time and clearly had an intent to influence the game it seems like it would have been way less effort on their part to apply for admin positions to offset the "bad" admins rather than, if this information is correct, attempt to bog down the admins they didn't like by working outside the system.
I like that theory, but it collapses when you remember that sinful has too much beef with the admin team, and pepper holds a grudge bigger than deez nutsdirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:59 pm Considering sinful/pepper played all the time and clearly had an intent to influence the game it seems like it would have been way less effort on their part to apply for admin positions to offset the "bad" admins rather than, if this information is correct, attempt to bog down the admins they didn't like by working outside the system.
Fucking loooooooool me I guess because that's hilarious
He just got banned for that? That happened like, last year
why do you act like your mother pushed in the soft spot on your skull when u were a baby
baitkinnebian wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:22 amwhy do you act like your mother pushed in the soft spot on your skull when u were a baby
Damn bro
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
when we ban too many players we suddenly get the dota NOT ENOUGH MANA voiceline
Reply 420 at 3.14 AM
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
No, but you can say what you would have done, unless it was a mistake, which can also be admitted.Fikou wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:51 pmit wouldn't have been handled either way. theres no way of knowing if anything about it being hidden would be different if he made a different forum account to appeal because thats not the reality we're in.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 3:37 pm What's the difference? If Sinful had been properly banned from the forums, and made a new forum account to appeal, would it have remained? If so, why?
I'm not saying that the banning of the forum account is any different, but that there's no effective difference between a forum account remaining unbanned, and him making a new one, as far as Appealing goes. If it had been banned as it was originally supposed to, he would have just made a new one like all the other Blacklists had to. The idea being "There IS no difference, so why is the end result different?"Fikou wrote:it's not different from others in any special way, there have been blacklists that banned people's forum accounts, like MRTY's, who made a different account to appeal it a few years later. there is no specific protocolWhat would have been the effective difference? And if not, why would his case have been different from the others
Generalized You. (I think) I remember seeing TBM mentioning it, and all the other admins speaking out in defense of this keep bringing it up, too.Fikou wrote:? this is the first time i mention itwhy do you keep bringing up that it was supposed to ban his Forum Account too?
don't count the ravens out they're coming back from a bye week this week and they just need to do good these next four games to prove it. i'm drinking the koolaid and saying ravens-lions super bowlTheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:39 pmbrowns once again got trolled out of a season and the ravens look suspect as ever, sportsball is over
Yes, if MSO finds out that the reasoning was poor, or if there were irregularities in the investigation.Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:58 am Heres a relevant question, has a blacklist ever been lifted?
you mean the thing you and others are asking for was already done and didn't bring a satisfying conclusion to this never ending dumpster fire? i cannot believe this. it's almost like the goalposts mysteriously move whenever one desire is fulfilled.GPeckman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:13 pm TBM quite literally did place a permanent ban intended to better explain the blacklist:Used a private metacord to coordinate harassment and brigading within the ban appeals/players club subforums along with several other players. These actions were taken with admitted bad-faith intention to frustrate and incite burnout in the admin team, and to facilitate malice and drama within the community. Due to your extensive history, and receiving explicit proof of the above actions being your goals, we do not believe you are in this community in good faith or good will.
if we're being totally truthful here, yes. once MSO gets involved and makes the call you really are in the passenger seat at that point. he can do whatever he likes, whenever he likes, for whatever reason he likes. the headmins trying to make that more palatable to a userbase who are used to everything being debated in the court of public opinion is a gesture not made out of necessity but out of respect for some kind of procedure where things are explained and done for a reason.
some stuff didn't happen in the middle here. admins haven't seen logs. the only things we've been told that you haven't is why certain people were deadminned, which is pretty standard procedure.GPeckman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:13 pm It really sounds like you're trying to have your cake and eat it too, by going "oh the headmin team had no part in this, this is all MSO's doing" when the headmin team performed an extensive investigation, shared the evidence they found with other admins, and even attempted to clarify MSO's reason for placing the blacklist.
MrStonedOne wrote:I always read dendy's walls of text
i cant believe /tg/ admins get payed time off
i like to imagine that everytime when a thread reaches 420 posts MSO lights up a big cigar but instead of it being a regular cigar it's actually a weed cigar with weed in it
we need MSO to share his 420 blunts with us or the community will suffer
for u, but i cant see deleted posts so not for me
oh damn those count
haha pleb
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Sinful was by far the more influential player, basicallyMooCow12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:18 pm It starts on 1, not 0...so we are on page 9
Also why is this thread still going unless we want them both unbanned, actually why is there more talk about sinful and none about pepper whats all the stuff they did.
Should we compile a history of everything they both did?
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