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|'''Roundstart suicide'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3536#p85722 Don't do it as an important role, and if it happens too often, you can be banned.]
 
|May 04, 2015
 
|KorPhaeron
 
 
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|'''Deleting security records as a nonantag'''
 
|'''Deleting security records as a nonantag'''
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|Oct 12, 2017
 
|Oct 12, 2017
 
|Armhulenn
 
|Armhulenn
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|'''Lynching for erotica on comms'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12516#p327160 Lynching for reading smut and spamming, especially on comms, is always okay. It also makes the reader nonhuman in silicon eyes.]
 
|Aug 16, 2017
 
|PKPenguin321
 
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|'''Validity when killing pets'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=14718#p369897 If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like killing Ian) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.]
 
|Dec 30, 2017
 
|KorPhaeron
 
|-
 
|'''Cutting down christmas trees/general asshole behavior for no reason'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=20942#p464904 If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like chopping down the Christmas trees while they’re enabled) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.]
 
|Dec 26, 2018
 
|Nervere
 
 
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|'''Naming Policy - Updated '''
 
|'''Naming Policy - Updated '''
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|Jul 22, 2017
 
|Jul 22, 2017
 
|KorPhaeron
 
|KorPhaeron
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|'''Forcing team antags to betray their team'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12004#p314848 Can't do it.]
 
|Jul 06, 2017
 
|Ausops
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Buying [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=623677#p623677 terrible shuttles] <del>as [[captain]]</del>'''
 
|'''Buying [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=623677#p623677 terrible shuttles] <del>as [[captain]]</del>'''
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|'''Playing under the influence'''
 
|'''Playing under the influence'''
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11882#p312161 Being drunk is not an excuse for grief/other banworthy things.]
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11882#p312161 Being intoxicated is not an excuse for grief/other banworthy things.]
 
|Jun 25, 2017
 
|Jun 25, 2017
 
|Ausops / PKPenguin321
 
|Ausops / PKPenguin321
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|Oct 09, 2021
 
|Oct 09, 2021
 
|NamelessFairy
 
|NamelessFairy
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|'''The "MMI test" for changelings'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=621266#p621266 Killing someone, removing their brain, and placing it in an MMI for the explicit purpose of determining whether or not someone is a changeling is considered an exploit.]
 
|Dec 05, 2021
 
|Dragomagol
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Calling the Emergency Shuttle without a good reason'''
 
|'''Calling the Emergency Shuttle without a good reason'''
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|Feb 21, 2022
 
|Feb 21, 2022
 
|Dragomagol
 
|Dragomagol
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|'''Building the BSA in dangerous places'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=695541#p695541 Build it wherever the fuck you like cuz it looks cool, but if you're egging on others to unlock it or fire it after building it in a grief spot it's partially on you.]
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|Jul 24, 2023
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|Kieth4 / Timberpoes
 
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|Jul 12, 2017
 
|Jul 12, 2017
 
|PKPenguin321
 
|PKPenguin321
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|'''Pile on ick ock'''
 
|Pile on ick ock is defined as a bunch of people teasing someone for IC in OOCing. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13113#p340427 It's okay until it crosses the line into being spam. Admins can mute OOC/individual players if it gets to that point.]
 
|Sep 24, 2017
 
|Ausops
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''IC reactions to OOC in IC'''
 
|'''IC reactions to OOC in IC'''
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|Feb 15, 2022
 
|Feb 15, 2022
 
|RaveRadbury
 
|RaveRadbury
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|'''Typebaiting'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=667957#p667957 Blatant type-baiting (i.e. explicitly using short questions to get someone to open a chat window such that they cannot respond when you promptly attack them) is metagaming, and is actionable]
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|Mar 03, 2023
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|Spookuni
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|-
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|'''Phonetically saying abbreviations/acronyms'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=704879#p704879 It's fine to make yourself look like a dork to phonetically say something that'd normally be too OOC.]
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|Sep 19, 2023
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|Fikou
 
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|Sep 01, 2017
 
|Sep 01, 2017
 
|Ausops
 
|Ausops
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|'''Are spiders bound to the mother?'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12895#p335656 Unless there's a message saying you are, the answer is no.]
 
|Sep 11, 2017
 
|Armhulenn
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Wand of Polymorph and Antag Status'''
 
|'''Wand of Polymorph and Antag Status'''
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|Coconutwarrior97
 
|Coconutwarrior97
 
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|'''Dynamic: Solo Antags willingly joining Team Antags'''
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|'''Solo antags willingly being converted'''
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=587044#p587044 Solo antagonists are restricted from willingly joining Team Antags]
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=587044#p587044 Solo antags may not join conversion based antags willingly. They cant just walk up to people and ask to join or allow themselves to be converted.]
 
|Jan 11, 2021
 
|Jan 11, 2021
 
|Coconutwarrior97
 
|Coconutwarrior97
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|Nov 21, 2021
 
|Nov 21, 2021
 
|RaveRadbury
 
|RaveRadbury
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|'''Ghosting When Caught By A Conversion Antag'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=705888#p705888 Using the suicide verb is okay before you're converted, but using the ghost verb is not. Ask for an antag ban if you do not want to play a team antag.]
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|Sep 26, 2023
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|Cheshify
 
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|'''Talking [[Mime|mimes]]'''
 
|'''Talking [[Mime|mimes]]'''
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=19699#p441114 Talking mimes are subject to punishment by the crew, excluding any form of round removal and making their body harder to find or revive.]
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=19699#p441114 Talking mimes are subject to punishment by the crew, excluding any form of round removal and making their body harder to find or revive.] [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=670464#p670464 This is still true even if the mime changes job mid-shift. Once a mime, always a mime.]
 
|Sep 23, 2018
 
|Sep 23, 2018
|Arianya, modified by Timberpoes / MrMelbert
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|Arianya, last updated by Misdoubtful
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Demotion metaprotections'''
 
|'''Demotion metaprotections'''
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|'''Speciesism Escalation'''
 
|'''Speciesism Escalation'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=628658#p628658 As per MSO's ruling. A player expressing speciesism is valid for (initially non-lethal) escalation. It is perfectly IC to want to beat up some speciesist asshole. However, if you use speciesism to initiate conflict you can still be punished at an administrative level for winning those fights under the guise of self-defence. Admins should enforce this with the goal of preventing players from being speciesist so that they can "valid" those who respond to it with violence.]
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=628658#p628658 As per MSO's ruling. A player expressing speciesism is valid for (initially non-lethal) escalation. It is perfectly IC to want to beat up some speciesist asshole. However, if you use speciesism to initiate conflict you can still be punished at an administrative level for winning those fights under the guise of self-defence. Admins should enforce this with the goal of preventing players from being speciesist so that they can "valid" those who respond to it with violence.]
|Feb 03, 2022
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[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=695750#p695750 Players using specifically the "l-word" are open to death and round-removal.]
|NamelessFairy
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|Feb 03, 2022, edit on Jul 25, 2023
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|NamelessFairy, last updated by Timberpoes
 
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|BeeSting12
 
|BeeSting12
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|'''Fortifying security roundstart'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1337#p26622 Barriers roundstart are not allowed, flashers are allowed, giving out guns/armor roundstart is allowed.]
 
|Sep 02, 2014
 
|HornyGranny
 
|-
 
|'''Gulagging should not be equivalent to a regular brig sentence.'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510239#p510239 We have agreed that gulagging is fine as it is, and anything you can complain about is probably an issue with them as a security player rather than something we can act on. You are free to ahelp if you think the punishment is harsher than it should be, but it's difficult to pinpoint whether or not it's fair without an actual case, which should probably be handled by admins in-game instead of policy.]
 
|Aug 25, 2019
 
|Wubli
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Who do security standards apply to?'''
 
|'''Who do security standards apply to?'''
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|Jul 19, 2014
 
|Jul 19, 2014
 
|Ikarrus
 
|Ikarrus
|-
 
|'''Do silicons count as a being under drone laws?'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1468#p29681 Yes, treat them as any other crew member.]
 
|Sep 19, 2014
 
|QuartzCrystal
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Can you order force-borged cyborgs to pick a certain module?'''
 
|'''Can you order force-borged cyborgs to pick a certain module?'''
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|Dec 11, 2014
 
|Dec 11, 2014
 
|Ikarrus
 
|Ikarrus
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|'''Security Cyborg Policies'''
 
|Just a few random questions related to security cyborgs. If a cyborg is acting as security/releasing prisoners then this is probably relevant as well. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2032&start=100#p46292 Link to answers.]
 
|Nov 26, 2014
 
|Pandarsenic
 
|-
 
|'''Silicons and harm in situations where you can't tell if they're being harmed or not.'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2677 Use common sense to decide if harm is going on.]
 
|Jan 22, 2015
 
|
 
|-
 
|'''AIs asking for law changes'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3793#p93653 An Asimov silicon cannot ask their laws to be changed.]
 
|Jun 06, 2015
 
|HotelBravoLima
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Are augmented humans still human?'''
 
|'''Are augmented humans still human?'''
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|Mar 24, 2015
 
|Mar 24, 2015
 
|Scones
 
|Scones
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|'''Drones and atmospherics'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4719#p120210 Improving atmos is okay. Cutting pipes/turning off plasma is not okay. Fighting the symptoms of plasma in the distro is fine though.]
 
|Sep 21, 2015
 
|Shadowlight213
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Spacing brains, MMIs, and intellicards'''
 
|'''Spacing brains, MMIs, and intellicards'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4309 You can tell the crew you are about to be emagged, but once you have traitor laws, you must follow them.]
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4309 You can tell the crew you are about to be emagged, but once you have traitor laws, you must follow them.]
 
|Aug, 2015
 
|Aug, 2015
|
 
|-
 
|'''AIs shutting security down because of law one (discussion)'''
 
|This is already covered in silicon policy. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5551 Here's the discussion thread on it.]
 
|Jan, 2016
 
|
 
|-
 
|'''Is mindswap considered harm?'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5180#p133969 No, but if an Asimov silicon has mindswap and is ordered not to use it by a human, it can't use it.] This is kind of an edge case.
 
|Nov 15, 2015
 
|Jordie0608
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Holoparasites and Asimov'''
 
|'''Holoparasites and Asimov'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5864 Link to relevant thread.] The discussion derailed into code discussion but the ruling is that roboticists cannot make unslaved borgs for no reason.
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5864 Link to relevant thread.] The discussion derailed into code discussion but the ruling is that roboticists cannot make unslaved borgs for no reason.
 
|Feb/Mar, 2016
 
|Feb/Mar, 2016
|
 
|-
 
|'''Asimov and gang dominators'''
 
|This can probably be applied to other nonharmful antagonist objectives. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6049#p157857 If a human orders you not to destroy it, don't destroy it. Other than that, Asimov does not forbid you from destroying it.]
 
|Feb 27, 2016
 
|Ausops
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Asimov and Corpses'''
 
|'''Asimov and Corpses'''
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|Aug 31, 2016
 
|Aug 31, 2016
 
|Shaps / Lzimann
 
|Shaps / Lzimann
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|'''Do caks remember past lives?'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=9223#p243589 Yes.] Not really silicon policy but it's related to MMIs/borging.
 
|Jan 13, 2017
 
|KorPhaeron
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Calling silicons rogue for little/no reason'''
 
|'''Calling silicons rogue for little/no reason'''
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|-
 
|'''AI suiciding to prevent subversion'''
 
|'''AI suiciding to prevent subversion'''
|Context: <del>If an AI knows it will be subverted and cause human harm, can it suicide? Example, clock cultists breaking into core, desword traitor in upload about to subvert, etc. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8376#p221790 It's allowed.] He says it should be bannable not to, but you won't get banned for not doing so, it's up to the player.</del> [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=27143 You're free to depower yourself as an AI to put the subverter/traitor on a timer but you shouldn't use the OOC verb to suicide.]
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=27143 You're free to depower yourself as an AI to put the subverter/traitor on a timer but you shouldn't use the OOC verb to suicide.]
 
|Oct 27, 2016 - Sep 20, 2020
 
|Oct 27, 2016 - Sep 20, 2020
 
|KorPhaeron
 
|KorPhaeron
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|May 11, 2017
 
|May 11, 2017
 
|PKPenguin321
 
|PKPenguin321
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|'''Letting people in to upload laws'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=10691#p280627 If the person has a right to be there, such as captain/RD, then you must let them in unless they've harmed people in the past or have announced intentions to upload harmful laws.]
 
|Apr 14, 2017
 
|Armhulenn
 
 
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|-
 
|'''Laws ordering silicons to kill themselves'''
 
|'''Laws ordering silicons to kill themselves'''
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|Hulkamania
 
|Hulkamania
 
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|'''Purging AIs for no reason'''
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|'''Are borged antagonists still antagonists?'''
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=636481#p636481 Purging should be used in cases where you are making new lawsets, are doing something as an antagonist, etc, and should not be a get out of jail free card on needing to make a lawset. We are officially recognizing purging as a means for players to achieve this effect as metagaming.]
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=582729#p582729 Antagonists still retain their status as a slaved borg (As long as they follow those laws and their AI).]
|Apr 6, 2022
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|Dec 5, 2020
|Mothblocks
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|Domitius
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|'''Asimov++ silicons and antag human hunting'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=655840#p655840 Asimov silicons that take action against non-harmful human traitors (I.E. those who are committing minor crimes like breaking and entering or theft, or those not carrying or known to possess lethal weaponry) directly and without provocation will be held accountable for any human harm that occurs as a result of their action.]
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|Nov 6, 2022
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|Spookuni
 
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|Aug 31, 2017  
 
|Aug 31, 2017  
 
|Ausops
 
|Ausops
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|-
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|'''Drones and atmospherics'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4719#p120210 Improving atmos is okay. Cutting pipes/turning off plasma is not okay. Fighting the symptoms of plasma in the distro is fine though.]
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|Sep 21, 2015
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|Shadowlight213
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|-
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|'''Do silicons count as a being under drone laws?'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1468#p29681 Yes, treat them as any other crew member.]
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|Sep 19, 2014
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|QuartzCrystal
 
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|'''Law interpretation and do not state this law clauses'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12627#p328678 There is room for interpretation in some cases. Be consistent in your interpretation of the laws.]
 
|Aug 22, 2017
 
|Ausops
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent?'''
 
|'''Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent?'''
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|Jun 23, 2014
 
|Jun 23, 2014
 
|Hornygranny
 
|Hornygranny
|-
 
|'''Do purged silicons have to act like a crewmember?'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2277#p52744 Purged silicons are subject to rule one and standard escalation.]
 
|Dec 22, 2014
 
|Stickymayhem
 
|-
 
|'''Discussion on paladin lawset: Part 2, the electric boogaloo'''
 
|Most relevant post is by HotelBravoLima, which applies to law interpretation in general. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3523#p85375 "Even doing something consistent with an interpretation of laws isn't good if you're being an OOC dick about it to such an extreme, that's the policy."]
 
|May 02, 2015
 
|HotelBravoLima
 
|-
 
|'''Tyrant module discussion'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4711 Just general discussion on the tyrant lawset.]
 
|
 
|
 
 
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|-
 
|'''AI's law zero'''
 
|'''AI's law zero'''
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|Oct 27, 2015
 
|Oct 27, 2015
 
|KorPhaeron
 
|KorPhaeron
|-
 
|'''Are AI laws applied retroactively?'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6351#p166712 No.] You'll have to read this thread to understand it, the question doesn't really provide enough context.
 
|Apr 04, 2016
 
|Hornygranny
 
|-
 
|'''If a borg linked to a rogue AI is emagged then does the emagged laws or AI law zero take priority?'''
 
|Very niche case and is probably impossible since emags should sever the connection to the AI. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6570#p173807 Starmute made a good post on AI law priority if you are confused.]
 
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|
 
 
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|'''Potential Law One Violations'''
 
|'''Potential Law One Violations'''
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|Jun 06, 2017
 
|Jun 06, 2017
 
|PKPenguin321
 
|PKPenguin321
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|'''Make "Do not state this law" a valid silicon policy law'''
 
|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510238#p510238 No, for the variety of reasons that have been said in this thread.]
 
|Aug 25, 2019
 
|Wubli
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|'''Define what classifies harm as willing, or change asimov++ law one'''
 
|'''Define what classifies harm as willing, or change asimov++ law one'''
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|Coconutwarrior97
 
|Coconutwarrior97
 
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| '''Promotions of prisoners to security'''
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| '''"Gun Cargo" on MRP'''
| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=576934#p576934 If you have a decent enough reason for it such as needing people to fight a blob sure, otherwise no.]
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| [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=600280#p600280 Needs a good IC reason, can't just be because "We're bored". Good faith gimmicks are still allowed, but you can't murder sec for trying to take your guns away.]
|Sep 20, 2020
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|May 16, 2021
 
|Coconutwarrior97
 
|Coconutwarrior97
 
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== Archived Rulings ==
 
== Archived Rulings ==
 
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
 
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
For Headmin Rulings that are no longer relevant, either due to being overruled or not applicable via code changes.
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For Headmin Rulings that are no longer relevant, either due to being overruled/added into the main rules, or being longer applicable due to code changes.
 
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
 
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
 
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|Feb 21, 2022 - Aug 19, 2022
 
|Feb 21, 2022 - Aug 19, 2022
 
|Dragomagol
 
|Dragomagol
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|-
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|'''Make "Do not state this law" a valid silicon policy law'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510238#p510238 No, for the variety of reasons that have been said in this thread.]
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|Aug 25, 2019
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|Wubli
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|-
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|'''If a borg linked to a rogue AI is emagged then does the emagged laws or AI law zero take priority?'''
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|Very niche case and is probably impossible since emags should sever the connection to the AI. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6570#p173807 Starmute made a good post on AI law priority if you are confused.]
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|-
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|'''Are AI laws applied retroactively?'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6351#p166712 No.] You'll have to read this thread to understand it, the question doesn't really provide enough context.
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|Apr 04, 2016
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|Hornygranny
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|-
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|'''Tyrant module discussion'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4711 Just general discussion on the tyrant lawset.]
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|-
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|'''Do purged silicons have to act like a crewmember?'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2277#p52744 Purged silicons are subject to rule one and standard escalation.]
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|Dec 22, 2014
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|Stickymayhem
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|-
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|'''Discussion on paladin lawset: Part 2, the electric boogaloo'''
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|Most relevant post is by HotelBravoLima, which applies to law interpretation in general. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3523#p85375 "Even doing something consistent with an interpretation of laws isn't good if you're being an OOC dick about it to such an extreme, that's the policy."]
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|May 02, 2015
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|HotelBravoLima
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|-
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|'''Law interpretation and do not state this law clauses'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12627#p328678 There is room for interpretation in some cases. Be consistent in your interpretation of the laws.]
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|Aug 22, 2017
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|Ausops
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|-
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|'''Purging AIs for no reason'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=636481#p636481 Purging should be used in cases where you are making new lawsets, are doing something as an antagonist, etc, and should not be a get out of jail free card on needing to make a lawset. We are officially recognizing purging as a means for players to achieve this effect as metagaming.]
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|Apr 6, 2022
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|Mothblocks
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|-
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|'''Letting people in to upload laws'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=10691#p280627 If the person has a right to be there, such as captain/RD, then you must let them in unless they've harmed people in the past or have announced intentions to upload harmful laws.]
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|Apr 14, 2017
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|Armhulenn
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|-
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|'''Asimov and gang dominators'''
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|This can probably be applied to other nonharmful antagonist objectives. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6049#p157857 If a human orders you not to destroy it, don't destroy it. Other than that, Asimov does not forbid you from destroying it.]
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|Feb 27, 2016
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|Ausops
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|-
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|'''AIs shutting security down because of law one (discussion)'''
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|This is already covered in silicon policy. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5551 Here's the discussion thread on it.]
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|Jan, 2016
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|-
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|'''Is mindswap considered harm?'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5180#p133969 No, but if an Asimov silicon has mindswap and is ordered not to use it by a human, it can't use it.] This is kind of an edge case.
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|Nov 15, 2015
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|Jordie0608
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|-
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|'''Security Cyborg Policies'''
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|Just a few random questions related to security cyborgs. If a cyborg is acting as security/releasing prisoners then this is probably relevant as well. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2032&start=100#p46292 Link to answers.]
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|Nov 26, 2014
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|Pandarsenic
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|-
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|'''Validity when killing pets'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=14718#p369897 If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like killing Ian) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.]
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|Dec 30, 2017
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|KorPhaeron
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|-
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|'''Cutting down christmas trees/general asshole behavior for no reason'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=20942#p464904 If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like chopping down the Christmas trees while they’re enabled) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.]
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|Dec 26, 2018
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|Nervere
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|-
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|'''Roundstart suicide'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3536#p85722 Don't do it as an important role, and if it happens too often, you can be banned.]
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|May 04, 2015
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|KorPhaeron
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|-
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|'''Lynching for erotica on comms'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12516#p327160 Lynching for reading smut and spamming, especially on comms, is always okay. It also makes the reader nonhuman in silicon eyes.]
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|Aug 16, 2017
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|PKPenguin321
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|-
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|'''Forcing team antags to betray their team'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12004#p314848 Can't do it.]
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|Jul 06, 2017
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|Ausops
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|-
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|'''The "MMI test" for changelings'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=621266#p621266 Killing someone, removing their brain, and placing it in an MMI for the explicit purpose of determining whether or not someone is a changeling is considered an exploit.]
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|Dec 05, 2021
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|Dragomagol
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|-
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|'''Pile on ick ock'''
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|Pile on ick ock is defined as a bunch of people teasing someone for IC in OOCing. [https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=13113#p340427 It's okay until it crosses the line into being spam. Admins can mute OOC/individual players if it gets to that point.]
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|Sep 24, 2017
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|Ausops
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|-
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|'''Are spiders bound to the mother?'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12895#p335656 Unless there's a message saying you are, the answer is no.]
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|Sep 11, 2017
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|Armhulenn
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|-
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|'''Fortifying security roundstart'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1337#p26622 Barriers roundstart are not allowed, flashers are allowed, giving out guns/armor roundstart is allowed.]
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|Sep 02, 2014
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|HornyGranny
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|-
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|'''Gulagging should not be equivalent to a regular brig sentence.'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=510239#p510239 We have agreed that gulagging is fine as it is, and anything you can complain about is probably an issue with them as a security player rather than something we can act on. You are free to ahelp if you think the punishment is harsher than it should be, but it's difficult to pinpoint whether or not it's fair without an actual case, which should probably be handled by admins in-game instead of policy.]
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|Aug 25, 2019
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|Wubli
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|-
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|'''Silicons and harm in situations where you can't tell if they're being harmed or not.'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2677 Use common sense to decide if harm is going on.]
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|Jan 22, 2015
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|-
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|'''AIs asking for law changes'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3793#p93653 An Asimov silicon cannot ask their laws to be changed.]
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|Jun 06, 2015
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|HotelBravoLima
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|-
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|'''Do caks remember past lives?'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=9223#p243589 Yes.] Not really silicon policy but it's related to MMIs/borging.
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|Jan 13, 2017
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|KorPhaeron
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|-
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|'''Security officers ignoring crime'''
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|[https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=711388#p711388 Security should be at least trying to do their job, or have a solid roleplay reason not to.]
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|Nov 14, 2023
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|Cheshify
 
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Latest revision as of 22:25, 31 March 2024

Note: This page is moderated and can be referenced in OOC issues, such as ban appeals, complaints, reports, etc. This may not apply to the pages this page links to.

This is a compilation of headmin rulings on various policy questions asked by players. This page does not replace the rules and whenever possible the rules should be referred to instead of this page. The rulings listed here can be referenced in ban appeals and admin complaints.

Please note: Some of these questions are for very niche/specific situations. Some of them cannot be applied the same way to every situation.

General Rulings

Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Deleting security records as a nonantag Don't do it every round. Don't use a sec/head position to do it. Don't use it to metagrudge. Aug 23, 2017 Ausops
Deathmatch if round-end is bugged If the round fails to restart, but the end round text plays, then everyone is free to act as per solo antagonists unless otherwise told by an admin. Aug 26, 2017 MrStonedOne
Mass identity duplication Changing many people into one person via genetics/other methods as a nonantagonist. It can happen every once in a while, just don't do it every single round. Oct 12, 2017 Armhulenn
Naming Policy - Updated Click here for the policy. Generally enforced at admin discretion. Oct 25, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Overthrowing security/mutinies Any situation where you can overthrow the security force in, they'll probably already be banned. It's okay if you have sufficient IC reason. Jul 22, 2017 KorPhaeron
Buying terrible shuttles as captain Allowed, but the crew is also allowed to mutiny/lynch the captain.

Addendum: Buying (bad shuttles) when the crew is saving up for a more expensive shuttle or has agreed to make a BYOS could be cause for mutiny. Clarification: Inciting a lynch mob and defending yourself lethally is self-antagging. Non-lethal self defense is generally fine, in the same vein as resisting a valid arrest.

Jul 03, 2017 KorPhaeron / PKPenguin321, addendum by Dragomagol, clarification by MrMelbert / Timberpoes
Playing under the influence Being intoxicated is not an excuse for grief/other banworthy things. Jun 25, 2017 Ausops / PKPenguin321
Fake Revolutions Faking a revolution always causes grief, without fail. If someone is pretending to be a revolutionary, feel free to murder them. If I find someone faking a revolution as a non-antag, they can prepare to catch a rule 1 ban for being a griefing shitter. Feb 04, 2019 Nervere
Antag Rolling If you're antag rolling consistently, AKA only seeing if you get antag or not, then leaving the round in one way or another when you don't, you are breaking the rules. Jul 13, 2019 Hulkamania
Early Launching This is already enforced, unless there's no one around, or they haven't noticed. We encourage you to ahelp it if you see it, because yes, it's extremely in bad faith to early launch because unga my antag roll faster. Aug 25, 2019 Wubli
Using any language other than English in-game Using non-english to communicate sentences or obscure information is not allowed, admins are invited to use their discretion for minor usage of non-english words/phrases, especially where its usage causes confusion amongst other players. Nov 11, 2021 NamelessFairy
Prisoner Policies Every prisoner spawns in with the following text, which should govern all administrative actions regarding the role:

You are not an antagonist. Remember: you did sign up for this role. If you should want to walk the halls of the station once more, you should earn your freedom, whether by escaping your confines or working with security/lawyers to determine terms of release. You might prove to be valuable manpower against the various threats the station professes. If you should wish to escape, minimize harm while preserving your own life, and understand that you may not enjoy the consequences of your actions if you get caught once more. Otherwise, enjoy the amenities of the wing that holds you.

Oct 22, 2022 Coconutwarrior97, updated by san7890
Supermatter suicide Suicide into an SM that is not set up, or that results in a delam is bannable. If you suicide into it, and it continues operations as normal without harmful side effects there is no issue. Jun 24, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Macros Do not use them to gain an IC advantage over other players. Other macros are allowed (i.e. killing yourself in Orion Trail), but are context-dependent. Oct 18, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Using 10-codes The use of short-hand codes for communication in any department, specifically 10-10 codes, are not allowed. Our servers are English only which makes this style of codified speak subversive and makes the applicable channels too unfriendly to new or fair-weather players. Oct 23, 2020 Domitius
Weapons of Mass Destruction to counter antagonists Use of Weapons of Mass Destruction is acceptable if the target antagonist is an overwhelming force and is on the verge of defeating the station, such as Nuclear Operatives, Cult, etc. Aug 2, 2021 Coconutwarrior97, Jimmius, Naloac
Dismantling the tram on Tram Station You can't dismantle the tram for arbitrary reasons or for safety reasons; you need to have a serious reason or goal behind it. Oct 09, 2021 NamelessFairy
Calling the Emergency Shuttle without a good reason If someone is calling or ordering the AI to call the shuttle without reason (or if the reason is something flimsy like "I don't like this map"), that is against the rules Jan 01, 2022 Dragomagol
Floor pills If you intentionally mislabel a harmful chemical, mutation or similar as something positive, and someone takes them thinking they are as described, then you will be held responsible for the outcome. Borderline cases should be left to admin discretion. Feb 21, 2022 Dragomagol
Building the BSA in dangerous places Build it wherever the fuck you like cuz it looks cool, but if you're egging on others to unlock it or fire it after building it in a grief spot it's partially on you. Jul 24, 2023 Kieth4 / Timberpoes

IC/OOC Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Referencing the gamemode ICly It's OOC in IC if you say something similar to "It's revs" but it's okay if you say "There is a revolution." Basically make it sound like you're not referencing the fact that you're in a round. Jul 12, 2017 PKPenguin321
IC reactions to OOC in IC It's okay as long as you're not crossing the line into OOC in IC. Sep 30, 2017 Ausops
Streaming Streaming is allowed on a registration-based system. Read the rules here for more information. Feb 15, 2022 RaveRadbury
Typebaiting Blatant type-baiting (i.e. explicitly using short questions to get someone to open a chat window such that they cannot respond when you promptly attack them) is metagaming, and is actionable Mar 03, 2023 Spookuni
Phonetically saying abbreviations/acronyms It's fine to make yourself look like a dork to phonetically say something that'd normally be too OOC. Sep 19, 2023 Fikou

Antagonist Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Vampire Policy Vampires are not antagonists just by being a vampire. Oct 27, 2017 KorPhaeron
Are miners using the gluttony syringe antags? Yes, they can act as a morph. Nov 13, 2016 KorPhaeron
Trying to get converted to team antags It's bannable, don't do it. Aug 01, 2017 PKPenguin321
Conflict between team antagonists If two people are on the same team and have an argument, it must follow escalation rules/rule 1. It cannot be detrimental to your team. Aug 15, 2017 PKPenguin321 / Ausops
Solo antagonists and metagrudging Solo antagonists can metagrudge as long as they are not rolling for it specifically to do so, and killing someone who killed you in a previous life as a ghost role antag is bad. Sep 01, 2017 Ausops
Wand of Polymorph and Antag Status Polymorphing yourself, or being willingly polymorphed, does not grant antag status. You are only an antagonist if you are unwillingly polymorphed. (This is a topic that has come up many times but never actually be codified) Sep 17, 2019 MortoSasye
Curse of Madness Meant to be taken as fluff, not a command. May 31, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Obsessed Antag Status Obsessed are not full antags and should generally stick to their objectives. Aug 28, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Abductors and Mindcontrolling Abductor brainwashing cannot be used for murderbone. Jan 11, 2021 Coconutwarrior97
Solo antags willingly being converted Solo antags may not join conversion based antags willingly. They cant just walk up to people and ask to join or allow themselves to be converted. Jan 11, 2021 Coconutwarrior97
How antagonistically can Abductors act? You can mess with the crew in many ways and create havoc, but are not allowed to just grab your baton and murderbone, or do things like sabotage the Supermatter crystal. Oct 16, 2021 Dragomagol
Lowpop Murderbone We welcome admins to note lowpop murderbone at their discretion. Repeated notes may result in bans. Nov 21, 2021 RaveRadbury
Ghosting When Caught By A Conversion Antag Using the suicide verb is okay before you're converted, but using the ghost verb is not. Ask for an antag ban if you do not want to play a team antag. Sep 26, 2023 Cheshify

Admin-Related Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Adminshopping Admin shopping is defined as going to different admins until you get a favorable ruling. It's highly frowned upon, don't do it. Sep 27, 2017 Feemjmeem / Agreed with by other headmins
Admin intervention without anyone ahelping It's allowed. Sep 26, 2017 Ausops
Killing nonhostile admin spawned entities Against the rules, don't do it. Sep 25, 2017 PKPenguin321
Using OOC to promote yourself for headmin elections One or two lines of text is fine, spamming is not. Sep 04, 2017 PKPenguin321

Escalation Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
IC Torture Don't complain if you get retaliated against for it. Oct 15, 2017 KorPhaeron
Map-Spawned Ghost Roles Such as roles spawned from ruins, including ash walkers, free golems, ancient station crew, etc. Escalation is massively relaxed with them. They must follow their roleplay guidelines found in the flavour text. Aug 14, 2017 KorPhaeron / PKPenguin321
Are miners turned into a lesser ash drake allowed to defend themselves? Yes, however, they are not antags by default. Nov 13, 2016 KorPhaeron
Talking mimes Talking mimes are subject to punishment by the crew, excluding any form of round removal and making their body harder to find or revive. This is still true even if the mime changes job mid-shift. Once a mime, always a mime. Sep 23, 2018 Arianya, last updated by Misdoubtful
Demotion metaprotections You can't do anything to resist a valid demotion that you couldn't do to resist a valid arrest. May 07, 2021 Jimmius
Speciesism Escalation As per MSO's ruling. A player expressing speciesism is valid for (initially non-lethal) escalation. It is perfectly IC to want to beat up some speciesist asshole. However, if you use speciesism to initiate conflict you can still be punished at an administrative level for winning those fights under the guise of self-defence. Admins should enforce this with the goal of preventing players from being speciesist so that they can "valid" those who respond to it with violence.

Players using specifically the "l-word" are open to death and round-removal.

Feb 03, 2022, edit on Jul 25, 2023 NamelessFairy, last updated by Timberpoes

Security Rulings

Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Organizing mass grief as security or a head Do not organize mass grief when you are in control of the security force. For context: The original question was when it was okay to remove cat ears or tails. Click the link to read the full ruling on that subject. Oct 18, 2017 KorPhaeron
Bribes as security You can assist antags with sufficient IC reasoning, but you can't do antagonist things yourself. Jun 25, 2017 Ausops
Planting/forging evidence as security No official ruling was given. If you do it and it causes someone to get wrongfully punished, it's on you. BeeSting12
Who do security standards apply to? Security standards can be applied to anyone acting as security, not just roundstart security officers. Mar 5, 2022 Dragomagol

Silicon and Drone Related Rulings

AI/Cyborg Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Do wizards mindswapped into a silicon have to follow laws? Yes, they do. If you have laws then you must follow them unless you have a law zero. (When in doubt, adminhelp it.) Jul 19, 2014 Ikarrus
Can you order force-borged cyborgs to pick a certain module? Yes. Oct 08, 2014 Scaredy / An0n3
Detonating cyborgs with little reason/alternatives Don't do it. Dec 11, 2014 Ikarrus
Are augmented humans still human? Yes, they are. There's a helpful chart in silicon policy to help explain this, reference that and adminhelp if there's still a question. Mar 24, 2015 Scones
Spacing brains, MMIs, and intellicards You can always do it as an antagonist, you should have a very good reason as a nonantagonist. Sep 09, 2015 Dorsidwarf / Ausops
Cyborgs alerting the crew they're about to be emagged You can tell the crew you are about to be emagged, but once you have traitor laws, you must follow them. Aug, 2015
Holoparasites and Asimov Holoparasites aren't human- a cyborg can attack the holoparasite but not the human. If the parasite recalls and the human is in critical, the borg must give him medical attention. Oct 08, 2015 KorPhaeron and Shadowlight213
Is slipping human harm? Only if the object they're holding falls on them and causes brute damage. Oct 06, 2015 Ausops
Silicons and Fight Clubs It's considered self harm if they're willingly fighting. Silicons shouldn't interfere if it's self harm. If they're being forced to fight, it's human harm and silicons should intervene. Mar 27, 2016 Thunder12345 / Agreed with by headmins
Roboticists making unslaved borgs for no reason Link to relevant thread. The discussion derailed into code discussion but the ruling is that roboticists cannot make unslaved borgs for no reason. Feb/Mar, 2016
Asimov and Corpses Corpses aren't human. You can't space them for no reason though. Aug 31, 2016 Shaps / Lzimann
Calling silicons rogue for little/no reason Against the rules, don't do it. Dec 22, 2016 TehSteveo / KorPhaeron
AI suiciding to prevent subversion You're free to depower yourself as an AI to put the subverter/traitor on a timer but you shouldn't use the OOC verb to suicide. Oct 27, 2016 - Sep 20, 2020 KorPhaeron
Asking to be deconstructed and then outing person who emagged you as an emagged borg Don't do it. Jun 06, 2017 PKPenguin321
Silicons and Prisoners If a nonharmful prisoner asks to be released, it can be released. If a harmful one asks to be released, don't release him unless security is harming him. In all cases release prisoners being harmed by security. (assuming all prisoners are human and you are asimov) May 11, 2017 PKPenguin321
Laws ordering silicons to kill themselves Whether silicons have to follow it depends on wording of law. You must have a good reason as a nonantagonist and you're free to do it as an antagonist. Jul 26, 2017 Ausops
Silicons using leet speak Silicons are not allowed to leet speak (e.g. l33t sp34k), but typing in a 'glitchy' manner is allowed on roleplay grounds Apr 17, 2019 Hulkamania
Is chaplain with dark blessing human? Chaplain with a dark blade is human. It's a fancy arm add on. We don't make people silicon for having augments, even full ones. Aug 21, 2019 Hulkamania
Are borged antagonists still antagonists? Antagonists still retain their status as a slaved borg (As long as they follow those laws and their AI). Dec 5, 2020 Domitius
Asimov++ silicons and antag human hunting Asimov silicons that take action against non-harmful human traitors (I.E. those who are committing minor crimes like breaking and entering or theft, or those not carrying or known to possess lethal weaponry) directly and without provocation will be held accountable for any human harm that occurs as a result of their action. Nov 6, 2022 Spookuni

Drone Rulings


Mostly defunct, as drones have since been removed, reworked, and re-introduced into the codebase.

Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Drone Policy Guidelines Guide to drone policy. May 20, 2015 Stickymayhem
Are drones valid? Only if they do something to annoy you. Mass killing drones for no reason is not okay. Sep 14, 2017 KorPhaeron
Drones and permabrig You can go in to fix damage. You might still get dronebanned if you let people out, it will likely be handled case-by-case. Oct 17, 2016
Drones and Powersinks Drones cannot destroy powersinks under the same logic of them not being able to defuse bombs or stop plasma floods. Aug 31, 2017 Ausops
Drones and atmospherics Improving atmos is okay. Cutting pipes/turning off plasma is not okay. Fighting the symptoms of plasma in the distro is fine though. Sep 21, 2015 Shadowlight213
Do silicons count as a being under drone laws? Yes, treat them as any other crew member. Sep 19, 2014 QuartzCrystal

Law Interpretation Rulings


Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Do AIs need a definition of Syndicate agent? No, they know by default what a Syndicate agent is. This also applies to other antagonists. Jun 23, 2014 Hornygranny
AI's law zero The law zero that a traitor AI gets means that it is an antagonist and it can ignore all other laws. Oct 27, 2015 KorPhaeron
Potential Law One Violations "Prioritizing "potential future law violations" is a fucking terrible idea, since it makes silicons able to handwave basically any law two request with "yeah but if i let you in there you might potentially attack somebody inside, law 1 violation!!!"" Jun 06, 2017 PKPenguin321
Define what classifies harm as willing, or change asimov++ law one Acceptance of risk is not the same thing as acceptance of harm - Silicons should act to minimise harm not explicitly consented to as much as they are able - if in doubt, ask the human. For more specific examples, see the full response to the thread. Nov 05, 2022 Spookuni

MRP Rulings

Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Searching for Implants If you're going to implant check you should have a justifiable reason to suspect they are specifically a traitor. Break ins, stealing someone's ID, stealing a laser, are actions which are not tied down specifically to traitors and aren't severe enough to justify an implant check.
Murder, multiple instances where someone is brought in for high impact crimes, or being in possession of syndicate equipment are sufficient for an implant check.
Mar 3, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Murderboning Specifics on MRP Servers Some roles can do it, some cant, and there are grey areas. Mar 18, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
"Gun Cargo" on MRP Needs a good IC reason, can't just be because "We're bored". Good faith gimmicks are still allowed, but you can't murder sec for trying to take your guns away. May 16, 2021 Coconutwarrior97
Promotions of prisoners to security If you have a decent enough reason for it such as needing people to fight a blob sure, otherwise no. Sep 20, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Security use of Contraband Sec should make best efforts to store contraband quickly, and only use it when appropriate situations arise. Wielding traitor gear during arrests threatens a sec officer's meta protections. Oct 24, 2021 RaveRadbury
Powergaming on MRP MRP players are expected to prioritize the story of the shift over tactical advantages. MRP admins are encouraged to engage sec, antags, and other crew that are going overboard with gear that doesn't fit the current circumstances (especially gear outside the scope of their job (as opposed to job products like plants and slime extracts)) and discuss the importance of pacing and sportsmanship. Nov 11, 2021 RaveRadbury

Archived Rulings

For Headmin Rulings that are no longer relevant, either due to being overruled/added into the main rules, or being longer applicable due to code changes.

Policy Ruling Date Headmin
Naming Policy Click here for the policy. Generally enforced at admin discretion. Aug 02, 2017 - Dec 18, 2018 Ausops
Drones building autocloners Fine unless done to interfere with other players. Sep 08, 2017 Ausops
Hunting the nuclear operative shuttle Do not attack the nuclear operative shuttle unless you follow an operative there or are led there by the pinpointer. Ruling struck down due to changes to the nuclear operative shuttle. Sep 16, 2018 - Apr 01, 2020 Arianya
Suiciding at round start as a Wizard to end the round Any instances of wizards killing themselves roundstart will be met with a permanent jobban from the role.

This no longer ends the round due to dynamic.

Oct 27, 2018 Nervere
Naming Policy - Updated Click here for the policy. Generally enforced at admin discretion. Dec 18, 2018 - Oct 25, 2020 Nervere
Using any language other than English in-game While we warmly welcome and eagerly invite players from all around the world to participate in the /tg/ community, we require everyone to communicate exclusively in English when playing on our servers. This restriction applies to both IC and OOC methods of communication. Mar 25, 2020 - Nov 11, 2021 Phuzzylodgik
Blood Contracts Shouldn't be used by non-antags to kill at random.

Removed from the game.

Sep 20, 2020 Coconutwarrior97
Arresting nonantagonists on station vs team antagonist game modes By station vs team antagonist game modes, the author of the thread meant nuke ops, blob, wizard, malf, etc. Security is still allowed to arrest nonantagonists for crimes on these game modes. That's part of their job.

This thread was based on the assumption that nuke ops, blob, etc confirm that there is no other antagonists. This was true at the time, but is no longer true after Dynamic.

Jul 30, 2014 Ikkarus
Streaming We've talked it over and we've decided that we will be disallowing streaming in its entirety from our server. It creates too many administrative headaches and potential for abuse to be allowed, while providing little benefit in return. If we add special restrictions and rules to streaming we'd need admins to check in and make sure those restrictions are being followed (such as a delay) when they're already busy trying to administrate on the server in the first place. The exception to all of this is that during certain special events such as the charity toolbox event or the balls we may lift this restriction. Apr 21, 2019 Hulkamania
Make Shoe-less Clowns Valid Shoeless clowns have been specifically encouraged via code changes to allow them to wear appropriate clothing for dress up shenanigans. No longer do they have a negative moodlet for being without their shoes. A clown is supposed to dress up to their hearts content, limiting that by making them valid without the shoes is rather punishing.

This was more relevant at the time, when shoeless clowns were assumed valid, but that assumption is long gone, and taking off your shoes as clown even gives a positive moodlet now.

Aug 21, 2019 Hulkamania
Families Betrayal/Grief If you choose to betray your family, the actual betrayal can only happen once you've joined another family. This avoids the issue of having team antags killing each other and justifying it as betrayal. Families are expected to operate similarly to revs in regards to the more widespread damage they cause, so blowing up the SM for no reason is likely not going to be alright because it could kill some of your own family members or interfere with their work, if however you bomb a rival family's headquarters that is probably alright.

With PR #68480, the Families gamemode has been removed.

Mar 18, 2020 - Jul 17, 2022 Coconutwarrior97
Thieves Policy Like abductors, obsessed, and brainwashed victims, thieves are not full antagonists and therefore rule 4 does not apply to them. Security should treat thieves as they would any other crew member who is maliciously stealing items. Likewise, thieves should not be using murder as a first resort to get items, and should escalate regularly.

With PR #69304, the Thieves gamemode has been removed.

Feb 21, 2022 - Aug 19, 2022 Dragomagol
Make "Do not state this law" a valid silicon policy law No, for the variety of reasons that have been said in this thread. Aug 25, 2019 Wubli
If a borg linked to a rogue AI is emagged then does the emagged laws or AI law zero take priority? Very niche case and is probably impossible since emags should sever the connection to the AI. Starmute made a good post on AI law priority if you are confused.
Are AI laws applied retroactively? No. You'll have to read this thread to understand it, the question doesn't really provide enough context. Apr 04, 2016 Hornygranny
Tyrant module discussion Just general discussion on the tyrant lawset.
Do purged silicons have to act like a crewmember? Purged silicons are subject to rule one and standard escalation. Dec 22, 2014 Stickymayhem
Discussion on paladin lawset: Part 2, the electric boogaloo Most relevant post is by HotelBravoLima, which applies to law interpretation in general. "Even doing something consistent with an interpretation of laws isn't good if you're being an OOC dick about it to such an extreme, that's the policy." May 02, 2015 HotelBravoLima
Law interpretation and do not state this law clauses There is room for interpretation in some cases. Be consistent in your interpretation of the laws. Aug 22, 2017 Ausops
Purging AIs for no reason Purging should be used in cases where you are making new lawsets, are doing something as an antagonist, etc, and should not be a get out of jail free card on needing to make a lawset. We are officially recognizing purging as a means for players to achieve this effect as metagaming. Apr 6, 2022 Mothblocks
Letting people in to upload laws If the person has a right to be there, such as captain/RD, then you must let them in unless they've harmed people in the past or have announced intentions to upload harmful laws. Apr 14, 2017 Armhulenn
Asimov and gang dominators This can probably be applied to other nonharmful antagonist objectives. If a human orders you not to destroy it, don't destroy it. Other than that, Asimov does not forbid you from destroying it. Feb 27, 2016 Ausops
AIs shutting security down because of law one (discussion) This is already covered in silicon policy. Here's the discussion thread on it. Jan, 2016
Is mindswap considered harm? No, but if an Asimov silicon has mindswap and is ordered not to use it by a human, it can't use it. This is kind of an edge case. Nov 15, 2015 Jordie0608
Security Cyborg Policies Just a few random questions related to security cyborgs. If a cyborg is acting as security/releasing prisoners then this is probably relevant as well. Link to answers. Nov 26, 2014 Pandarsenic
Validity when killing pets If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like killing Ian) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you. Dec 30, 2017 KorPhaeron
Cutting down christmas trees/general asshole behavior for no reason If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like chopping down the Christmas trees while they’re enabled) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you. Dec 26, 2018 Nervere
Roundstart suicide Don't do it as an important role, and if it happens too often, you can be banned. May 04, 2015 KorPhaeron
Lynching for erotica on comms Lynching for reading smut and spamming, especially on comms, is always okay. It also makes the reader nonhuman in silicon eyes. Aug 16, 2017 PKPenguin321
Forcing team antags to betray their team Can't do it. Jul 06, 2017 Ausops
The "MMI test" for changelings Killing someone, removing their brain, and placing it in an MMI for the explicit purpose of determining whether or not someone is a changeling is considered an exploit. Dec 05, 2021 Dragomagol
Pile on ick ock Pile on ick ock is defined as a bunch of people teasing someone for IC in OOCing. It's okay until it crosses the line into being spam. Admins can mute OOC/individual players if it gets to that point. Sep 24, 2017 Ausops
Are spiders bound to the mother? Unless there's a message saying you are, the answer is no. Sep 11, 2017 Armhulenn
Fortifying security roundstart Barriers roundstart are not allowed, flashers are allowed, giving out guns/armor roundstart is allowed. Sep 02, 2014 HornyGranny
Gulagging should not be equivalent to a regular brig sentence. We have agreed that gulagging is fine as it is, and anything you can complain about is probably an issue with them as a security player rather than something we can act on. You are free to ahelp if you think the punishment is harsher than it should be, but it's difficult to pinpoint whether or not it's fair without an actual case, which should probably be handled by admins in-game instead of policy. Aug 25, 2019 Wubli
Silicons and harm in situations where you can't tell if they're being harmed or not. Use common sense to decide if harm is going on. Jan 22, 2015
AIs asking for law changes An Asimov silicon cannot ask their laws to be changed. Jun 06, 2015 HotelBravoLima
Do caks remember past lives? Yes. Not really silicon policy but it's related to MMIs/borging. Jan 13, 2017 KorPhaeron
Security officers ignoring crime Security should be at least trying to do their job, or have a solid roleplay reason not to. Nov 14, 2023 Cheshify